A train has derailed near Stonehaven.

[27vet]

Originally Posted by TRP

The RAIB has posted some of it's initial findings which reveals the the HST was travelling at 72.8 mph when it hit the landslide. It also gives details of the movements of the train leading up to the derailment.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...dated-21082020

Investigations are still taking place with further information to be published in due course.

Tony

That's a very high speed and explains the destruction.

[pre65]

Stonehaven derailment: Line to reopen next week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-54749304

[steamanddiesel]

Originally Posted by Beeyar Wunby

They're suggesting that an overnight flood may have something to do with it.

kinda stupid if you ask me

[Beeyar Wunby]

Originally Posted by steamanddiesel

kinda stupid if you ask me

[pre65]

That remark confused me as well.

[TRP]

Originally Posted by pre65

That remark confused me as well.

Likewise - it's an odd choice of wording. All I can offer as an explanation of how I read this comment is "how can a flood/landslip be allowed to occur on the track?" But, we all know that things like this are not within the rail operators' control, and the report will tell us if anything could/should have been done differently.

Tony

[pre65]

Latest update.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-56799613

[27vet]

It would be interesting to know the difference in speed between this train and the TGV that hit a landslide from Cologne to Paris, the driver was injured, but there were no fatalities. Incidentally I was on a TGV to Paris from Bordeaux at the same time.

[Grosvenor]

The RAIB have published their Interim report, https://www.gov.uk/raib-reports/inte...nt=immediately ,which makes interesting reading.

[TRP]

Originally Posted by 27vet

It would be interesting to know the difference in speed between this train and the TGV that hit a landslide from Cologne to Paris, the driver was injured, but there were no fatalities. Incidentally I was on a TGV to Paris from Bordeaux at the same time.

Is this the incident, at Ingenheim, 5th March 2020?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingenheim_derailment
https://www.railjournal.com/passenge...s-tgv-service/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...astern-france/

If so, the wiki entry states the TGV was travelling at 270kph (170mph), but I suspect that the geography of the area has a lot to do with the outcome. The RAIB report into the Stonehaven crash states that the train remained upright for 60m following the derailment before hitting the parapet of the bridge and falling down the embankment. I suspect if the area had been straight and level, with no embankments or bridges, then there would have been a good chance that the train may have possibly stayed upright.

Tony