Why does DB Shenker want to scrap class 60's

[lnwr20]

Whilst working on a re-lay site in Newport south wales last weekend i witnessed 2 class 66's working in tandem, on the ex-Robeston fuel train when this working was always a single class 60 working. An as far as i knew it was banned to have 2 66 working mulipule but i guess our German friends have now over ruled this, cause you have to have a platform in between the 2 66's to connect the jumper cable as its to high to be done from the ground by the driver or shunter, an permission had to come from head office up in Doncaster.

[ccmmick]

Originally Posted by lnwr20

Whilst working on a re-lay site in Newport south wales last weekend i witnessed 2 class 66's working in tandem, on the ex-Robeston fuel train when this working was always a single class 60 working. An as far as i knew it was banned to have 2 66 working mulipule but i guess our German friends have now over ruled this, cause you have to have a platform in between the 2 66's to connect the jumper cable as its to high to be done from the ground by the driver or shunter, an permission had to come from head office up in Doncaster.

I dont know why 60s are being phased out to me they are a lovely loco.
We used to call the 66 a Ford and the 60 a Rolls Royce .

ccmmick.

[lnwr20]

Well i recon the 60's are far superior to a 66, an the ride quality is so much better on a 60 an their quieter. The 66's are just to noisey which ever cab your riding in.

[ccmmick]

Have you ever been in 67 Phill.

ccmmick

[lnwr20]

I'm sorry to say no i hav'nt had that pleasure of cab riding a 67 yet are they really that bad?????, Well i suppose being built by GM they must be are they the same as a 66 with the power unit being bolted direct to the frames so you feel all the vibrations when under full throttle??????.

[21Aman]

The main reason class 60's are being phased out is the cost of keeping them going,most of them are due costly "F" exams ( £500,000 at least per loco) and as traffic has fallen off drastically there are plenty of 66's available to run in "multiple", which in the economic climate at present,is a cheaper option.

[21Aman]

Originally Posted by lnwr20

I'm sorry to say no i hav'nt had that pleasure of cab riding a 67 yet are they really that bad?????, Well i suppose being built by GM they must be are they the same as a 66 with the power unit being bolted direct to the frames so you feel all the vibrations when under full throttle??????.

A 67 on the ECML at 100mph plus is unbelievable,much worse than a class 86/87 electric ! and you couldn't drink a cup of tea on them ! whilst moving at speed.
I think a 5XP steam loco at high speed rode better than a 67,they are probably the worst riding loco's I've ever driven.

[ccmmick]

I can tell you Phill they are bad worse than any loco i have ever driven.
Coming down Hemerdon bank at 4am 80mph with a mail train, there was a damp patch just before Plympton and if you went over it at 80mph line speed you would leave the seat.
A 66 is a lot better ride 6 wheel bogie where a 67 only has 4.
They should scrap the lot.

ccmmick.

[lnwr20]

So instead of having a quality loco like a 60 they prefer to have there drivers using a loco thats akin to a Ford model T.......LOL an how bout when EWS supplied all drivers with ear-defenders because of the noise in the cabs whilst under power. What price would anyone put on hearing......???????

[lnwr20]

Well ccmmick if you'd been working down from Shelwick Jn bout 5 years back when i was in the gang if the drivers were'nt watching the road they would end up wearing there tea, when we were packing joints...