Bollington: a new era!

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You say that no restoration is required to most of those Locos. Having viewed the Preston Services website, it is stated next to EACH LOCO'S photo that it is UNRESTORED. Looking at the photos it is obvious that each loco has had an Exterior coat of paint to make them look respectable but on looking closer there are parts missing from all of them. Expensive Parts too. Injectors. Clack valves. Copper pipework. These will all need replacing before you can even think about just TRIAL STEAMING the locos let alone putting them into service. What is the mechanical state of each loco? Unspecified on the website. What is the state of the Boilers? Again unspecified on the website. You cannot be serious that these locos will not need any restoration.

[steam for ever]

I did say that there were several of one type.
One of these would probably be used for spares.
All aquired locos will receive full B&MLR colours, which have not been decided.
What liveries can anyone suggest?

[62440]

Is there any chance that you could answer my queries, please, and not try to slip away from the point?

[steam for ever]

Oh, right well OK then.
As I have said there are several locos on sale there and so spares will not be a problem.
We will have at least one loco for spares.
Preston services do say that they are in good condition.
Heavy overhall will not be necessary here as we will have the spares as I have said.
We do not wish to restore them as upgrades usuall mean for the better, but we will certainly have a full inspection done before buying.
Anyway the livery is an issue whci needs to be adressed.
Sorry if I seam unreasonable.

[62440]

Not unreasonable, just not familiar with the essentials of running steam locos. Those locos have been brought into this country from somewhere in eastern Europe. do they come with all the NECCESSARY documentation re boiler inspections, repairs etc?

[steam for ever]

It is european law.
Anyway as I have said the locos will have full inspections.
I would not be doing this If I was unfamiliar with these things.
I m not just going to buy them and then kick them into service if that's what you think.

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You seem VERY unfamiliar with these things, and come across as a wishful thinker, in the whole of the thread you have stated very few FACTS, but plenty of what I can only describe as Wishful Thoughts. Have you Ever been involved with ANY Preserved Railway or Steam Locomotive?

[steam for ever]

Yes indeed I have.
You cannot seriously expect me to tell you everything can you?
I have to protect some info about the project as all preservation societies have the right to do and do.

Sinilarly have YOU ever had any experience with this sort of thing.
I don't want a fight, but some of the things you say are just plain insulting.

[John H-T]

Originally Posted by steam for ever

Yes indeed I have.
You cannot seriously expect me to tell you everything can you?
I have to protect some info about the project as all preservation societies have the right to do and do.

Sinilarly have YOU ever had any experience with this sort of thing.
I don't want a fight, but some of the things you say are just plain insulting.

Most preservation Groups are up front about their aims and clearly set out what they are aiming to do. That is how they get support for their projects!

Having read all your posts my gut fealing is that you do not have a lot of experience of Heritage Railway Projects.

Please do remember that there are quite a number of very knowlegable people contributing to this Forum, whose expertise could serve you well if you bothered to read their posts before adding your next comment.

Best wishes,

John H-T.

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Can I just add to what John H-T has posted and then may I put a couple of questions to you SFE.
Any railway project needs support and the only way to get that support initially is to shout out loud, ie use any media available to you, then when you see what sort of response you get you can start to formulate a master plan, why then SFE is this forum the only place I have seen this grand idea mentioned?
Secondly what make you sure you can see this project working when not many miles away those wonderful people at Rowsley and Matlock are still trying to fulfill their dream,and in all due respect to your line,it has'nt half the potential of what the Peak has.
And finally why at this pre-embryo stage why are you worring about locomotives? Believe you me if you open this line, loco owners will be coming to seek you out no matter what guage you use.
Over to you SFE.

Cheers John