Peak Rails Link to Network Rail at Matlock

[Silver Fox Phil]

Thanks for the update John and Wyvern both good sets of photos. I will get there soon and have a look myself.
Thanks
Regards
Phil

[wyvern]

Originally Posted by John H-T

As promised a selection of photos to show progress at Matlock: Track into the Station and platform cleared.

I understand that the track will be tamped next and that the platform is to be raised to modern height.

Running round is going to be interesting!

Best wishes,

John H-T.

One way would be to use two locos. One in a siding which will run in to couple up to an arriving train. On departure the train releases the first loco which then runs out to the siding ready for the next one?

Or have one each end as with normal present day mainline practice.

Presumably they couldnt put a crossing onto the other line as it belongs to Network Rail.

Also its on a different level because of the metal sleepers which incidentally retain the height of the platform (1?) relative to the train.

[John H-T]

I think the idea is to have two locos in volved but this will increase costs. Anothe idea is to have a Diesel shunter to release the train engine by hauling the stock away. This will be time consuming and will need all passengers to detrain.

best wishes,

John H-T.

[kestreleyes]

im pretty sure somewhere on here ive already metioned this but for this year all trains will be top n tailed till the signalling is finished, then the method will be either

1.eg santa trains-top and tail throughout for time saving.
2.run into matlock in the first train top n tail,rear loco detaches,train proceeds away to rowsley,the loco left behind then drops down to riverside into the loop, the next passenger returns then the loco drops onto the front end,followed by the same occuring again till the last train of the day when the locos both return.

time is saved by the fact the train is in the platform for 5-10 minutes anyhow detraining/loading passengers,in that time you do the uncoupling,recoupling.,theres no requirment to take train back to riverside to run round,remember you arent allowed to propel.

3.run round at riverside,if you cant run to matlock,alos allows you to drop original loco back on front again but that move may be not used by the ops dept.

thats the shortened version.

[geoff10]

I understand that work on platform 2 to bring it up to normal height is due to start on June 1st.

According to recent additional page on Peak Rail website http://www.peakrail.co.uk/eventinfo.html, Matlock station extension opening + inaugural steam service will take place on Sat 2nd July.

Unlike EVR, the Peak Rail timetable doesn't easily connect with the EMT as trains are every 1hr 16min - but there's always Bill Hudson books to spend a bit of time in.

[whitemoor66]

Originally Posted by kestreleyes

im pretty sure somewhere on here ive already metioned this but for this year all trains will be top n tailed till the signalling is finished, then the method will be either

1.eg santa trains-top and tail throughout for time saving.
2.run into matlock in the first train top n tail,rear loco detaches,train proceeds away to rowsley,the loco left behind then drops down to riverside into the loop, the next passenger returns then the loco drops onto the front end,followed by the same occuring again till the last train of the day when the locos both return.

time is saved by the fact the train is in the platform for 5-10 minutes anyhow detraining/loading passengers,in that time you do the uncoupling,recoupling.,theres no requirment to take train back to riverside to run round,remember you arent allowed to propel.

3.run round at riverside,if you cant run to matlock,alos allows you to drop original loco back on front again but that move may be not used by the ops dept.

thats the shortened version.

Why are you not allowed to propel, apologies up front if I've missed something here.

[geoff10]

Originally Posted by kestreleyes

im pretty sure somewhere on here ive already metioned this but for this year all trains will be top n tailed till the signalling is finished, then the method will be either

1.eg santa trains-top and tail throughout for time saving.
2.run into matlock in the first train top n tail,rear loco detaches,train proceeds away to rowsley,the loco left behind then drops down to riverside into the loop, the next passenger returns then the loco drops onto the front end,followed by the same occuring again till the last train of the day when the locos both return.

time is saved by the fact the train is in the platform for 5-10 minutes anyhow detraining/loading passengers,in that time you do the uncoupling,recoupling.,theres no requirment to take train back to riverside to run round,remember you arent allowed to propel.

3.run round at riverside,if you cant run to matlock,alos allows you to drop original loco back on front again but that move may be not used by the ops dept.

thats the shortened version.

If method 2 was good enough for the most intensive steam service in the world - the Jazz out of Liverpool St before electrification, then I'm sure it will work for Peak Rail

http://www.lner.info/forums/working-...zz-t941s0.html

[Madcaravanner]

Originally Posted by whitemoor66

Why are you not allowed to propel, apologies up front if I've missed something here.

Yes I'm interested in this too why are you not allowed to propel because the Pretendalino and East Coast Flying Scotsman services are propelled albeit using a DVT

[kestreleyes]

big difference in propelling with the sole mode of control and power being at the rear from a dvt which has control at the front and power at the rear,likewise even an auto coach has control at the front, for a time when we first opened up we propelled with a driver sat in the rear coach in a specially made drivers door,with lights,horn,comms to the engine, thats fine on our side, now go through the paperwork with NR telling them youd like to!

[John H-T]

Originally Posted by Madcaravanner

Yes I'm interested in this too why are you not allowed to propel because the Pretendalino and East Coast Flying Scotsman services are propelled albeit using a DVT

To propel with members of the public on board it is necessary for a suitably qualified person to have a clear view of the track ahead, to have access to a vacuum/air brake control to be able to apply the brakes in an emergency and a means of audible approach, eg: horn. The suitably qualified person must give his/her undivided attention to the job and not do anything else.

Best wishes,

John H-T.