ex Arriva 158s

[martin adamson]

Now that there are more 175s coming at ATW, and when tpx start to introduce 185s on North TPX runs then it should mean that more 175s come to ATW. What will happen to the 158s? Not heared much about this so any ideas on what to do with them?

[GWR9600]

Id like them on the Stratford/Leamington - Worcester route. The 150s then could be put into formations of 5 vechiles more regulary. I wish the 150 seating arrangements were more like the 158s there are too many seats across the carragies and there isnt enogh leg room between the arline stly seats.

[martin adamson]

I know that some poeple think that the 158 interior that was put in most 158s is not very good (the blue one) when comparing it to tpx and central, but one thing that was good about it was that is one of the coaches there was a two seat formation with a small table, good if you wanted a table without going into a four seater where you could become potentially crowded around as those trains can become full easily.

I would like to see some given to Northern Rail (even though the idea of more liveries would make it more confusing ) and add some to Calder Valley sevices as these seem to get crowded with two car trains.

[swisstrains]

Originally Posted by David A Hicks

Now that there are more 175s coming at ATW, and when tpx start to introduce 185s on North TPX runs then it should mean that more 175s come to ATW. What will happen to the 158s? Not heared much about this so any ideas on what to do with them?

Firstly,
Happy birthday David.
Secondly,
I think they should scrap the ATW 158's. They are awful things with hardly any legroom. Totally unsuitable for travelling any distance.

[martin adamson]

Thanks John,

I agree that a lot of work needs to be done on these units if they were going to be used for another TOC. I agree that it is strange that these are used on such long distances, some going for around 7 hours if going into the Pembrokeshire area. What a journey that would be on a crowded 158.

[Ringoosmeg]

The 158s are being put through works for a C6 exam and internal mods, they are being done at Wabtec in Doncaster, and will come out as 159s and being sent south!
R

[GWR9600]

Originally Posted by Ringoosmeg

The 158s are being put through works for a C6 exam and internal mods, they are being done at Wabtec in Doncaster, and will come out as 159s and being sent south!
R

Whats the difference between 158s and 159s?

[Ringoosmeg]

159s are virtually the same as a 158, except that the 159 has first class section, the 158 is purely second class.
R

[GWR9600]

OK, Thanks Ringoosmeg. So then why werent they 158/1s like modifications to the 150s were called 150/2s as supposed to a totally different class?

Tim

[swisstrains]

I'm sorry but my comments about the ATW class 158's being cramped for long journeys referred to their 2-car units.
I now assume that we are talking about the 3-car 158's most recently operated by Transpennine Express as these are the ones that are being converted to 159's at Wabtec for use down south.