Trip to Widnes on 158 864 of East Modlands Trains

[swisstrains]

John,
I think that all the ATW services between Manchester and Newton-Le-Willows are scheduled for 175's. I can see the Manchester-North Wales line from where I live and 158's are very rare nowadays.

[John_142]

Yeh i forgot that htey have gone for refurb and to have that new equiptement fitted. ("Old age makes you forget things")

[swisstrains]

Originally Posted by John_142

Yeh i forgot that htey have gone for refurb and to have that new equiptement fitted. ("Old age makes you forget things")

There's not much hope for me John. I bet I'm twice as old as you

The 158's that are having the new equipment fitted are used on the ATW Cambrian lines. (Shrewsbury-Aberystwyth-Pwllheli).
158's have not been used regularly on the services through Newton-le-Willows since Arriva Trains Wales took control of all the 175's. If you remember some of the 175's were shared with TransPennine until they got their new 185's.

[John_142]

Ahhhh right must have been a while ago that i was on one comming back from Manchester but iam shure some one somewere on this forum said there were some journeys operated by 158's.

Ps..Iam 30 going on 60 !

[martin adamson]

I did my seat counting on a 175 today. In coach A there are 54 seats, of which there are 6 tables around 4 seats. A 158 contains 66 seats in coach A. Therefore, looks like more legroom on the 175s by the fewer 12 seats.

[swisstrains]

Originally Posted by David A Hicks

I did my seat counting on a 175 today. In coach A there are 54 seats, of which there are 6 tables around 4 seats. A 158 contains 66 seats in coach A. Therefore, looks like more legroom on the 175s by the fewer 12 seats.

Thanks for that David. A 175 coach is also slightly longer than a 158 one so the extra space is even more pronounced.

[swisstrains]

Originally Posted by John_142

Speaking of Arriva Trains Wales and 158's do you which Journey from Manchester to Newton Le Willows on Saturdays are operated by 158's please.

Originally Posted by Swisstrains

John,
I think that all the ATW services between Manchester and Newton-Le-Willows are scheduled for 175's. I can see the Manchester-North Wales line from where I live and 158's are very rare nowadays.

John,
Just to prove me wrong Arriva have been using a 158 on the Llandudno-Manchester route today (Saturday). It worked the 09:47 Llandudno-Manchester, 12:16 Manchester-Llandudno, 14:35 Llandudno-Manchester and probably the 17:20 Manchester-Llandudno although I didn't see it. I have also noticed a 158 working this line on Sundays recently.

[John_142]

Thats just typical as i was hopping for one to be used when i was comming back from NOTTINGHAM last week.

17.20 that will be about 17.41 @ Newton Le-Willows ?

[swisstrains]

Originally Posted by John_142

Thats just typical as i was hopping for one to be used when i was comming back from NOTTINGHAM last week.

17.20 that will be about 17.41 @ Newton Le-Willows ?

17:45 John

[John_142]

Thanks ! "Though wouldent have missed it"