No more fatalities - ever

[Flying Pig]

Originally Posted by ccmmick

If someone is in that state of mind and have had enough with their life then they will do it one way or another it is very sad and no amount of fancy words will ever change it ..<snip>

I totally agree. However what we need to do is persuade them that the railway isn't the answer

The purpose of the wording change is to eduacte the public to this....although it's so lame the public won't even understand it IMHO.

Whereas...

Originally Posted by 60159

Person jumped in front of train in another botched suicide attempt and yet again has survived but been horribly maimed

really makes the point.

Perhaps we should write something on the vinyls on the outside of trains ?

DON'T JUMP UNDER THIS TRAIN - IT WON'T KILL YOU BUT IT WILL PROBABLY CUT OFF YOUR LEGS. RING THE SAMARITANS INSTEAD.

If only, .

[Deathbyteacup]

Some sort of advertising campaign along the lines of those "Don't run the risk" or "Don't drink and drive" ads would probably solve the problem quite effectively, if it explained that jumping under the train mames rather than kills.

[John_142]

sUUMATT ON tv SDOON i THINK !

[lnwr20]

Ok guys, Having worked on the tracks for the last 11 an a bit years i've seen a few near misses with trains an track staff. An i am now the closest near miss that Network Rail have ever had at 1.5sec's with me getting out the way an the train going by me. An that happened just outside Welshpool towards Shrewsbury, i was marking up ready for tamping just stepped into the 4' to mark up the zero cant mark an the train was there horn blowing an me Diving out to the cess for my life. So when it comes to people jumping in front of trains sometimes its not the public its staff who know the rules an get complacent.

[ccmmick]

I agree with you totally on that one the track is a very dangerous place to be and you have to be on the ball all the time.

You be very careful out there Phill.
ccmmick.

[lnwr20]

I will try ccmmick, i remember when i was about 5 or 6 years old me an my Grandad were going for a walk down by the river here where i live now, an before we got to the field or left the pub where i grew up we heard a train blowing its horn continuously but we did'nt know why. When we went for our walk we found out a deaf an blind girl or should i say partially sighted had walked onto the railway at a farm crossing stood in the 4' an never heard or saw the train comming. All i saw was the girl covered over with her cape an i can still see her now even more so if i go walking by that xing.

[ccmmick]

Yes Phill like you i have heard about lots of deaths on the railway thank god i never had one.
I think the worst would be kids or workmen on the track, if someone wants to lie down and call it a day i honestly dont think i would bother me that much and please dont take that the wrong way i think you all know what i mean.

ccmmick.

[John_142]

The Railway is a Dangerous place but at the end of the Day it is all down to plain old common sense affterall if you saw / had electric wires hanging out of the wall you would't touch them without switching off the power first or using an electrical testing device.

[dw1986]

Originally Posted by Flying Pig

Now don't shoot the messenger, I'm only telling it like it is.

Some Passenger train drivers in the UK have been advised that following a successful trial in New Zealand, they must not use the expression 'Fatality' when telling the public about people hit by trains.

The Policy Deciders at RSSB have decided that the expression now is "Person struck by train".

And the reason for this is that many people who attempt suicide on the Railway are horribly maimed or dismembered rather than killed.

In New Zealand they found that educating the public to the attempted suicide statistics has significantly reduced the occurance of them.

So when you find your train cancelled due to a 'person struck by a train' - ya heard about it here first !

Hi, I am a psychology student researching for some coursework i am writing at the moment (titled: 'how to reduce deaths on railways'), and I was wondering if you had any links/ general information source references for where you found out about the terminology preference change? Iv been looking around the RSSB website etc but dont seem to have found any information regarding changing the prefered terminology.
Thanks,
Duncan

[Lambent Productions]

Lambent Productions, a company specialising in educational and factual documentaries, are producing a documentary about railway suicides. Our company has previously won an award for our work on mental health programming.

The only way to begin to reduce suicide is to reduce the stigma of talking about it and the media can give people that platform to do so. However, suicide is a subject that is rarely spoken about satisfactorily by the media. We hope to change that in our own small way and open up the debate in an informed and respectful way.

In order to do this we are in contact with a number of bereavement organistaions such as the Samaritans, Survivors of Bereavement by Suicide (SOBS), Cruse Bereavement and Papyrus (Prevention of young suicide) and will be speaking to the families of those who have lost loved ones to rail suicide. We strongly believe that a voice also needs to be given to drivers who are affected by this and we would like to speak to anyone who is willing to share their story.

We have been in touch with the RMT who have been supportive of what we are trying to achieve and are looking into finding us drivers who can contribute to a discussion about suicide on the tubes/trains. We feel it is essential to hear this voice as the effects of a suicide do not stop with the bereaved family and friends, as you well know. The mental health of a driver after someone has jumped in front of their train is of great importance to this discussion also.

We are looking for drivers of any age, any background, retired or active it doesn’t matter, we are just very keen to talk to anyone who has been affected by a suicide on the lines. All contact will be treated in complete confidence and there is no pressure to be involved in the filming. We just want to speak to you. This film is important and we would much rather make it with your support rather than without it.

Please contact Emily on [email protected] or 01273 648 380.