HST preservation unlikely?

[StoneRoad]

252 001 - one of the prototype power cars is in the NRM (at York? I think in the Great Hall), and it has buffers {which I remember from seeing it under test at Chippenham in 1972/3}

[Rassy]

The reason why 8 power cars were fitted with buffers in 1987, was so they could be used as DVT's for the class 91's.

When the class 91's were first built the DVT's and MK4 coaches were not ready in time to be tested, so they fitted 8 HST's with buffers and used them instead.

[railwaybuddy]

i see you like scrap locos rassy

[Anon Mouse]

Originally Posted by steam for ever

To the original topic- all of the HST's have been re engined so none of the original examples exist.

what about the NRM's 41 001

[Dave Rowland]

Originally Posted by Anon Mouse

what about the NRM's 41 001

That's not a standard HST set, it's a prototype, hardly what most people would associate with class 43 - it wasn't a passenger train was it, just part of a test unit?

[Deathbyteacup]

Not to mention the prototype isn't the full set anyway?

[Anon Mouse]

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland

That's not a standard HST set, it's a prototype, hardly what most people would associate with class 43 - it wasn't a passenger train was it, just part of a test unit?

well its got its original Paxman Valenta, but I get the point

I am sure the prototype was used in service for passenger evaluation purposes?

[8001]

Elecric trains have a far better performance than a diesel in the 1960,s the deltics only produced about 2600hp at the rail(depending on speed) wheras the AL6(86) 25kV loco was producing about 4000hp, the gap in performance still exists. Electric Traction does have some disadvantages and few people allow for electrical transmission losses in their calculations, however the powers source can be what Coal, Neuclear, Wind, Tidal Whatever you want.

[steam for ever]

One problem;
whenever it snows electric trains stop working.

[Anon Mouse]

Originally Posted by steam for ever

One problem;
whenever it snows electric trains stop working.

So most of the network in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, China, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Germany, Slovakia, Czech, Hungary etc etc just shuts down coz electric trains dont work in snow?