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Rail company's Chinese trains bid (BBC News)

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Old 12th April 2007, 15:27
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Rail company's Chinese trains bid (BBC News)

A company due to run a new rail service between the North East and London hopes to use Chinese trains.

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Old 13th April 2007, 08:42
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How times change - 3 trains having a £5 million 'makeover' (plus original cost) and they have a life of no more than 12 years! Little wonder fares are so high.
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If the Government were serious about climate change they wouldn't even consider allowing Grand Central to use diesels on what is mainly an electrified route.
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Old 13th April 2007, 11:01
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Hi John and All Grand Central is to use Chinese diesels on what is mainly an electrified route why not use a new electric train. The ECML was electrified in first place to replace diesels. The mind boggles.
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Hi John I've looked into it and the reason they are not using Electric trains on this route is because the trains start from Sunderland and go via Hartlepool Stockton on Tees, Eaglescliffe, Yarm and down to Northallerton to join up with the East coast Mainline, a route that is not electrified.
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Hi John I've looked into it and the reason they are not using Electric trains on this route is because the trains start from Sunderland and go via Hartlepool Stockton on Tees, Eaglescliffe, Yarm and down to Northallerton to join up with the East coast Mainline, a route that is not electrified.
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Thanks for that Alan.
I think there's a real need in this country for electro-diesels. Because many services start or finish at non-electrified locations diesel trains end up running under the wires for hundreds of miles at a time.
I live near the electrified West Coast mainline but the majority of services are diesel powered. Even when companies could use electrics they tend to stick to diesels. I think this is possibly because most locos and trains are leased and the leasing companies find electrics very inflexible from a business point of view. Apart from the South-East suburban services, when it comes to electric traction, the leasing companies are generally only willing to get involved with the likes of Virgin and GNER .
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I think a lot also has to do with when there is engineering work and diversions take place - for a company to just have say eletric trains wouldnt makes sence because you then have no flexibility to divert trains onto routes which would require desiel traction. An electro desiel unit would be perfect which is what the government want HST2 to be. take for example Kings Cross - Inverness or Euston - Holyhead just 2 of many routes which could benefit from dual fuel traction.
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I think a lot also has to do with when there is engineering work and diversions take place ........................
Yes, good point.
An electro-diesel train could also help to restore direct services between London and such places as Blackpool and Barrow.
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well, so much for buying things made in england !

before long there will be nothing made here, just china and every other country !
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