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Old 23rd August 2013, 23:06
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Thanks for the info Phil , I'm pretty sure he'll put it on eBay like all the junk he gets from car boots!
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Old 23rd August 2013, 23:17
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Yeah just looked at the link Phil and can't figure out what the letters mean. Was the plant/Doncaster works important for trains?
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Yeah just looked at the link Phil and can't figure out what the letters mean. Was the plant/Doncaster works important for trains?
Yes !

BUT, I doubt that whatever carried your Dads "Planet" nameplate was made there.
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I think you will find that PLANET was the name of the firm that made the loco. It looks to me like the makers name from the front of the bonnet of a small diesel loco, the sort of thing that would have been used in and around factories, water works, quarries, etc.

Just googled Planet Diesel Locomotives and it came up with this:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._C._Hibberd_%26_Co.

And another link, scroll down to the picture, Fig 7 and you will see where the plate fits on the loco:-http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/14/Planet.htm

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Sorry Philip, its Planet not the Planet
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IF you look at the photo on the quoted post then got to
http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/14/Planet_7.jpg

this looks pretty similar if not identical
IF you look at other older industrial diesels and steam loco's for that matter you will invariably find cast plates of their builder and build number
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According to this website http://www.abrail.co.uk/DandEdepots.htm the only Hibberd "Planet" loco ever to be used on B.R. was no.52 (11104) at West Hartlepool Creosote Depot. I wonder if it went to Doncaster Works for scrapping?

Is it pure coincidence that Doncaster Works was usually referred to by railwaymen as "THE PLANT" ?
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Hi,

Definately looks like the maker's name plate from the front of one of the Hibberd diesels - I have a photo in the gallery of Hibberd 0-4-0DM 'Rochester Castle' at Chatham Dockyard, showing the 'Planet' plate on the front:

http://www.railwayforum.net/gallery/...&searchid=8996

It's still a very interesting piece of loco history, but unfortunately it's not obvious exactly which loco it's come from! Not sure of a Doncaster connection either.

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Extract from Wikepedia about the Thomas Hill company of locomotive builders, who at one time sold Hibberd 'Planet' locomotives under licence...

On 30/6/89 the company was again taken over, this time by RFS Engineering Ltd. (RFS were already operating at the old BR Doncaster works. The Thomas Hill name was dropped, but developments of TH designs continued to be produced. RFS’s first seven locos (narrow gauge locos for the channel tunnel contract) were numbered into their own scheme, thereafter works numbers of locos continued TH’s numbering.

Kilnhust works finally closed during 1993. Stock and work were transferred to RFS’s Doncaster works by 8/93. The final loco (CRACOE, for Tilcon, Grassington, N Yorks) was built at Doncaster as RFS Doncaster went into receivership.

So this could be a link as this would suggest that everything from Thomas Hill in Rotherham was transferred to RFS in Doncaster & this could possibly include items of spares or items taken off locomotives etc.

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Thanks very much gents for all your information, it's really interesting to delve so deep into the history of such a thing as a piece of cast metal.
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