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Help on a European Voyage :-)
Evening to you all
I am a UK Railwayman and I am planning to do a 9-10 day tour of Europe by rail (mostly sleeper services) and I was wondering if anyone could help me with a few things. Basically my itiinary is........ 18th of June 0909 Waterloo to Paris, 2032 Paris to Barcelona (Elipsos) 19th of June 2040 Barcelona to Milan (Elipsos) 21st of June 11:10 Milan to Zurich, 22:40 Zurich to Vienna 22nd of June 22:33 Vienna to Prague 24th of June 21:18 Prague to Warsaw 25th of June 23:30 Warsaw to Berlin 27th of June 21:35 Berlin to Basel 28th of June 09:05 Basel to Geneva 29th of June 12:57 Geneva to Paris 30th of June Eurostar back to Waterloo Does anyone know the standard of the sleeping accommodation on any of the trains and what tracton I can expect on the non Eurostar legs i.e ones to stay up and enjoy the thrash or ones that should be used for sleeping ![]() Also if there are any rail staff out there! How do I stand with the FIP coupons on sleeper services and are there any which I should upgrade to 1st (the Polish legs sound a bit dodgy) or perhaps any of the others which offer a reasonable upgrade to 1st? ![]() Any help would be appriciated, doesn't seem to be any resources to show you the stock they use and as for rail staff travel ![]() ![]() Anyway thanks in advance Tom C |
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The more hardend of European Railway Gricers can be found on www.groups.yahoo.com/groups/europeanrail
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Tom, that is one heck of a journey. You should certainly see a good selection of trains on your travels.
I am not an expert on night trains in Europe but a quick look through the timetables and websites on the internet reveals the following details. Your "Elipsos" journeys from Paris-Barcelona and Barcelona-Milan will be in Talgo trains. These are high quality hotel trains consisting of rather strange dumpy coaches which share the same single axle truck. "Elipsos" have a website here Your daytime Milan-Zurich journey is over the scenic Swiss Gotthard line and will be an Italian/Swiss "Cisalpino" tilting electric unit (like this one) "Cisalpino", the operating company have a website here Your night journey from Zurich-Vienna is on the EuroNight "Wiener Walzer" which as far as I know uses OBB Austrian Railways standard sleeping cars. Motive power from Zurich to the Swiss/Austrian border will be a Swiss SBB Re4/4 ll electric loco (like this one). An Austrian electric loco will take over at the border for the rest of the journey through to Vienna. I don't know anything at all about the Vienna-Prague-Warsaw-Berlin part of your journey but I suppose this could be your only chance of diesel haulage but even then I doubt it. ![]() You will return from Berlin-Basel on a "CityNightLine" service. This is another high class service and some of their sleepers are actually double deckers. "CityNightLine" have a website here Loco will be a German DB electric. Your Basel-Geneva daytime journey is on a Swiss SBB ICN tilting electric unit (like this one) and the leg from Geneva-Paris is on a French SNCF TGV high speed train. As you can see most of the motive power is guaranteed to be electric so there will be more sparks than thrash ![]() Hope this helps, John. |
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Errr?
The date of the original post was Nov 2005 for a trip in June 2006, or three months ago. So either Tom C is still stuck in Eastern Europe waiting for a train home ![]() I would love to hear all about it. |
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Trip is for June next year
![]() Thanks very much John for that info it is very much appriciated, I was using www.bahn.de for the timetable details and all the night trains seemed to be nachtzug so couldn't tell them apart but thanks for the clarification ![]() Looking forward to it even more now ![]() Tom C |
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