Class 66.....load limit...

[saxokid]

Was outside Immingham this afternoon,when i saw one Ews "66" pulling 31 petrol tankers,is there no limit on how many tankers can be pulled just by one loco??

[Madcaravanner]

Originally Posted by saxokid

Was outside Immingham this afternoon,when i saw one Ews "66" pulling 31 petrol tankers,is there no limit on how many tankers can be pulled just by one loco??

There is somewhere but I can't find it
I KNOW

they have a brake force of 66 tonnes

their nominal tractive effort is 920 tonnes continuous

so the limit of tankers is only worked out by their weight

[HM181]

Originally Posted by Madcaravanner

There is somewhere but I can't find it
I KNOW

they have a brake force of 66 tonnes

their nominal tractive effort is 920 tonnes continuous

so the limit of tankers is only worked out by their weight

If the load was made up of loaded TEA 101ton tanks then the trailing tonnage would be 31x101tons= 3131tons, with a length of approx. 93 SLU's.
If these Tanks were 45ton TTA's then the weight would be approximately half that of the TEA.
This train would need special permission to run with such a length of train.
The Example below shows the loading for 6E05 from Ellesmere Port to Immingham via Warrington, with empty LPG Tanks,

All goods trains running in the UK have a driver slip at the bottom of the tops sheet, with all the info he needs to work the train.
Waiting for tops sheets sometimes made trains late away from a location. This failure of tops was something that you had to put up with.
with the issue of the mobile phones in 2001 the TP could phone up TOPS and give the tops clerk the consist of the train over the phone.
The Tops inputer would then phone you back with the details you needed to make out a drivers slip, from the info you gave him.
Once you had this info you could then write out a Drivers Slip and sign it and give it to the driver.
The list had the following Headings;

Train reporting Number 6E05. From Ellesmere Port to Immingham, Humber Oil. Time 16:02hrs 5/11/09.
On the Right side of the slip was written

Maximum Load. 790 Tons.
Brake force 172 Tons(E1)
Route Availibility. 8
Max Train Length 60SLU.


Now on the right Hand side of the slip was the following Info.

Actual Load. for 12 empty tanks. 583 Tons.
Brake force for 12 empty tanks. 314 Tons.
RA. 7
Number of Vehicles. 12.
Length of Train. 36 SLU's
Speed. 60 MPH.

On the rear of the slip required the numbers of wagons conveying Dangerous Goods.
These numbers were shown from the locomotive to the tail lamp.
Of utmost importance was the Dangerous goods number and the hazchem number and this was 1077 and HR38A
Then a stamp that the train had been examined, and a signiture of the person responsible for Train Prep.
These loading are taken from my diary from 2002, and are the actual data used for 6E 05 Ellesmere Port to Immingham Humber Oil.
At this time Ellesmere Port Gas Tanks have been cut up and Stanlow has demolished the Gas Terminal.
This job was shared between Immingham and HM Traincrews and ran from January 1995 to January 2002.
Route Taken was Immingham Humber Oil to HM then via Hebden Bridge, Man Vic, Newton Le Willows, Warrington, Helsby Jct to Stanlow.
Happy Days.

[saxokid]

Thanks guys for the information,thats grand.......