London Overground Questions

[Midland Compound]

I encountered London Overground for the first time today, when I caught up with the second last day of service at Stratford Low Level. I have a couple of questions

1) do LO have their own livery ? All the stock I saw was still in Silverlink livery.

2) all stations had signs in orange and white, but almost all of the nameboards have small writing in the bottom right corner saying "temporary sign" ! What's that all about ?

3) got off at Camden Road, and was surprised to the see the 313 unit switch from 3rd rail to overhead. Is that normal at that point ?

is it me or the new london overground class 378s look exactly like the class 172 under production at derby,strange but true!

and anser to your quistion london overground does have its own livery its on the new 378s

but ive never traveled on them but he sign you saw with orange and white is simular to there livery,but i cant explain 'temprary' sign

[DSY011]

Question for Southeastern-465, Why do you use 3 posting within a few minutes of each other, all on the same subject. I have noticed that you do this quite a lot. In one case you posted 3 times in 3 minutes.

i dont know its when i forget to write somthing,then have to write it again because i cant bother editing it,or in the other case its based on the same subject,but if i write it in one forum it wouldnt make sense,im also a big fan of you on this site when did you first get into railways and why?
SouthEastern-465,NSERS member,
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[ECML43]

I never go on the London Overground even though I only live a few miles away from it (it's not that I don't like it. it just doesn't go anywhere I want to go) but I know quite a lot about it.

Transport for London bought it off silverlink and branded it part of the London Underground network (but it isn't underground so they called it the overground) so they have the same livery to london underground, but because their fleet of 313s is due for replacement any day soon (by 378s), I expect they cannot be bothered to liverise their whole fleet when it's just about to be replaced.

About the signs, LU have a different colour or colours for each line, and orange and white are the colours of the LO. I expect the 'Temporary Sign' is something to do with the massive upgrade that the LO network is going under. They're redoing all the stations and building an extention out to the east (through Brunel's tunnel under the Thames!).

It does seem very odd that some parts of the LO are 3rd rail while others are overhead, but actually, the line was electrified along with some parts of the Southern network, which is all 3rd rail DC. When the northern network was electrified, some sections were converted to overhead AC. but they never got round to converting the whole line. I don't know exactly the places where it changes, but camden road must be one of them.

You might also like to know why the 313s have such a low headroom and sunken pantograph trough (if you look in the middle carriage of each unit you will see the lower cieling at one end). this is because they are also used for inner-suburban services on the hertford loop and southern ECML (where I use them) there is a branch off at Finsbury park to moorgate down a former branch of the Northern line (LU) the tunnel has a very low headroom, hence the need for 3rd rail power transmission and a low cieling.

[DSY011]

Southeastern-465, in answer to your question "when did you first get into railways and why?" have a look at the site below. You can also go into the members list and look up all the threads started by me. They will give you some more information about my love of railways.

http://www.railwayforum.net/showthread.php?t=78

can i just apologise to sid,for my swearing,its just i didnt mean to affend anyone but i hope you can forgive me,
SouthEastern-465,Nsers member

[Midland Compound]

Originally Posted by ECML43

You might also like to know why the 313s have such a low headroom and sunken pantograph trough (if you look in the middle carriage of each unit you will see the lower cieling at one end). this is because they are also used for inner-suburban services on the hertford loop and southern ECML (where I use them) there is a branch off at Finsbury park to moorgate down a former branch of the Northern line (LU) the tunnel has a very low headroom, hence the need for 3rd rail power transmission and a low cieling.

Thanks for the info, but I did already know that. I was on the last train out of Broad St to Finsbury Park back in 1977, after all !