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Originally Posted by 222007

I had seen it reported that Arriva were looking at class 170's with a lower gear ratio and probable 3+2 seating. This could work i think. Or how abouts a siemans product - fair enough the 185's are extremely heavy but surely something simular and lighter could be produced for ATW Northern and FGW?

Found it on wikipedia -

Most Pacers are over 20 years old, with some over 25 years. Train Operating Companies (TOCs) are researching ways of trying to replace the Pacer, although little progress has yet been made. Northern Rail has said it would replace Pacers with Chinese lightweight trains. Arriva Trains Wales announced in early 2006 that it would replace Pacers by 'displacing' its fleet with Class 170 Turbostar trains, although nothing has been ordered. It looks possible that Pacer trains could be in operation for at least another decade.
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