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I find the seats are harder on newer trains such as 185s. Though, I don’t find the seating on the former Arriva Trains Northern 156s very comfortable. Virgin Trains provide the best seating, but when they run trains from Plymouth to Newcastle I think they need very good seats. Although, with any train someone might be using as part of a long journey, you don’t want to make three 1 hour journeys on Pacer trains one after the other!
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