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Old 14th December 2007, 10:14
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Originally Posted by swisstrains View Post
No matter what they would have us believe, I doubt if First Group really had much say in the design of the 175's or 185's. It is more likely that Alstom and Siemens presented them with train designs that met their basic requirements and First were only allowed to make small changes.
First probably just decide on the seat covers. (Northern's 323s and ATW's 175s that used to belong to First North Western have the purple seat covers that you see on most First buses.)

350s are practically an electric version of 185s (identical seats, doors, automated PA systems and destination displays) Yet 350s were built for Central Trains and Silverlink by Siemens.
The most noticeable difference between 185s and 350s (apart from one's electric amd one's diesel) is that 350s have four coaches with first class in the middle, while 185s currently have three coaches with first class at the front or back.
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