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It is all about the type and distance the trains are used on for example bus seats are great on 142's because they are desighned to be used on Short Distance Local Stopping Services Like in My areas Liverpool - Wigan, L/pool Wartrington.
High Back seats are great on 150's becuase they are designed for Longer Ditance Services Like L/pool - Manchester Stopping Services / Semi Express.
And High Back seats are good on 156's & 158's because they are designed for Express Services Like L/Pool to Blackpool or Manchester Airport.
These old DMU's with Northern arn't being used as they shold be which is killing them as for the seating to be comfortable it has to be on the train has type of service.
The thing with 185's & 158's s they are BUilt for Express work but really are being pushed to the Limit as trains like Pedaleno's, Voyagers, Medrians, Adalanties which are built for very Long distance services and all have well padded seats and more carriges.
The seating i find is very comfrtable on 185's but when i went to york on one last year i found the enviroment cramped people walking past hiting me accidenlty with bags trying to find there reseved seat this is why they shold have gone for Medrians on these Services as 185's are Just abit small at three cariges for the lengh of the jorney great for L/pool - Manchester Express or Blackpool Express but no good for very Long Distance Services to York etc.
The Same goes for 158's I Traveled on 158 883 recently only Between Hunts Cross and Liverpool Lime Street and found the Seats very comfortable indeed well padded etc but yet i couldent immagine spending five hours on one Between L/Pool and Norwich or even five hours on a 170 which have comfortable seats.
So in practiaclity it is down to the goverment to take all this into account and ensure trains are built and used on what they shold be not using DMU's for Verty LOng Distance Services.
Services from L/pool to Norwich, York , Scaroborogh , and Services from other areas of these Distances need Modern day Locomotives (HST's) or simmler types like Mederains,Voyagers,Pendalino's etc.
Also the seating on the Refurbished Merseyrail 507/508's arnt very comfortable nitehr ok for Just going between crosby and L/Pool CTL etc But to Southport or Chester from L/POOL CTL not a very comfrotable ride.
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