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sleeper 29th June 2009 21:04

Sleeper Trains
 
I am a novice (in both the hobby and railway forum sense), so please forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong area.

My main interest is in the overnight sleeping services that have and still exist in Britain. Can anyone point me in the right direction with regards to researching more information (technical and historical) on the subject.

Thanking everyone in advance for any help they may be able to provide.

jay 30th June 2009 16:06

I have just got back from a fortnight in Fort William on the Jacobite support crew, am knackered!!!!

Anyway, while we where sat in Fort William allowing the punters onto the footplate the Caledonian sleeper service would arrive, at about 9:30am. I don't know when the stock returned, but it was still sat in the loop when we arrived back from Mallaig at 16:00.

It was an EWS 67 on the front, 67011 most of the time.

Here is a link for more info on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Sleeper#Route

db47596 1st July 2009 16:27

Hello;
As far as I am aware, there are only two routes that see Sleeper trains nowadays. There is the First Great Western sleeper from Paddington to Penzance, usually hauled by the 57/6s. Departure from Paddington is about midnight and Penzance about 10ish (I think). The other is First Scotrail, and they run two trains. London Euston to Edinburgh, where the train splits into three, for Fort William, Aberdeen and Inverness. The other train is London Euston to Glasgow and Edinburgh. These trains use DB-S Class 90s in First Corporate livery from London to Edinburgh/Glasgow and DB-S Class 67s north thereof.
For Exact times I'd suggest checking on the relevant websites.
During times of engineering works it has been known for the sleepers to use the east coast line rather than the west coast.
HTH
Dave.

sleeper 1st July 2009 21:35

Thank you to you both.

jeemac 31st July 2009 02:00

I regularly travel between Euston and Inverness, and it's a great service ... and has recently been fairly reliable to boot! :)
There's usually quite a good atmosphere on board, and the crews are generally very friendly. (There was a time when we were raided by the BT police at Preston, and a couple of guys got frogmarched away, but let's not go there!)
I understand that there is an obligation on Scotrail to provide the current service as part of the franchise obligation, and they do promote it sometimes, but I often feel it's underutilised. The carriage sets are showing their age, and must have clocked up an enormous milage - they could really do with refurbishment or replacement, and do suffer from a lack of storage space, especially for bikes.

Pesmo 9th August 2009 08:06

Jeemac, I was hoping to use it for a journey to aviemore next year to visit the strathspey railway. It appears to be good value if booked well in advance. I would be travelling on my own. Would you recommend 1st or 2nd class ? Is there much difference in the comfort/food etc ?

LesG 9th August 2009 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pesmo (Post 30582)
Jeemac, I was hoping to use it for a journey to aviemore next year to visit the strathspey railway. It appears to be good value if booked well in advance. I would be travelling on my own. Would you recommend 1st or 2nd class ? Is there much difference in the comfort/food etc ?

If you travel 1st class you get a cabin to yourself.

Food wise you now have to order your breakfast when you board,for the standard class it cost £4 for a bacon roll or a croissiont tea or coffee otherwise you get the standard T or Coff with the shortbread. I am unsure about the 1st class breakfast.

Les

Steve 9th August 2009 21:46

Can I get my car on a train to scotland?

Eccles71B 9th August 2009 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 30615)
Can I get my car on a train to scotland?

No, you can't.

Gandalf 10th August 2009 07:39

Did they transfer those 'Roadrailer' trains to the Chunnel then?
John (G)


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