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WhiteRose 21st April 2010 18:59

Class 66 cab doors
 
This is just to satisfy my curiosity. Why are the cab doors set so far back from the side windows on a class 66? Have they lots of space inside the cab?

Cheers

Richard

HM181 21st April 2010 22:12

The cab on a 66 is has space in it for 2 members of crew with ease.
If you ever see an open cab door you will see the when it was painted the door was closed, as you can see a border of unpainted metal round the outside of the door.
The seats are ok and will recline to some extent, this comes in handy on ballast turns,as you can have a sleep whilst doing nowt.
In the warm weather the cabs heat up and become too warm for the drivers.
ASLEF gave EWS an ultimatum to fit AC's in both cabs or class 66's would be blacked.
EWS maintained the if AC's were fitted in the class 66 it would take it over its Route Availability with the excess weight.

When 66 first came into service, when you were hooking off between the buffers, the engine would rev up as though it was going to move.

LesG 22nd April 2010 11:19

When 66 first came into service, when you were hooking off between the buffers, the engine would rev up as though it was going to move.[/QUOTE]

And still do as this part of the design, put simply if the computer detects a drop in the air system then it tells the compressors to speed up to compensate.

Les

WhiteRose 22nd April 2010 17:00

Interesting stuff. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to respond.

Cheers

Richard

Seabrook 22nd April 2010 19:45

When you open the External Doors on a Class 66 you enter a small passageway and the Cab doors are on the back wall of the Cab. 2 Doors No'1 end and 1 Door No'2 End. This reduces draughts and noise due to the cab doors also being sound insulated. The external doors are just formed sheets of steel. No'1 cab is large and spacious. No'2 end cab is a lot smaller and suffers from noise and severe overheating in Summer due to being situated in front of the radiators and cooling fans.

Gwilicivils 8th January 2011 22:41

66 doors eat fingures.

Seabrook 9th January 2011 12:34

When we as Drivers were finally issued gloves on a regular basis one of the reasons stated was because of the rough grips on the handrails. One supervisor also added the rider 'if your fingers are ever caught in the doors he expected to see blood inside them'. Such was the reputation Class 66s had for trapping fingers. What might seem a tongue in cheek comment left me unsure owing to the legendary tightness of our FOC who did not want to face a claim!

whitemoor66 9th January 2011 15:14

My experience of 66 doors is that they could not be opened from the ground using the bottom door handle so basically you would have to climb the steps and get level with the door, twist the handle and apply a firm bit of protective footwear to the bottom of the door. On reflection, they are probably no different from any other loco. 67 doors don't line up with the steps and are therefore more challenging.

saxokid 19th January 2011 03:58

Interesting read guys......

Wakey spotter 19th January 2011 22:25

HM181. Regarding the "Self" revving up of the Class66 :- When National Power Rail Business became a part of the then EWS I remember the first time I took a EWS 66 out. The Lad that was with me who had plenty of experience of Driving Class 59/2 ( which don`t self rev) was inbetween coupling up to some wagons when Mr 66 decided to Rev up on its own !! I have never seen anyone dive out from between a loco and wagons like that !! Gordon Banks / Peter Schmiechael would have been jealous !! lol
His choice of words after that towards me were a not quite nice !! lol


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