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swisstrains 5th October 2006 20:44

Little and Large
 
Sometimes it's hard to imagine how much bigger North American locos are compared to ones built to the British loading gauge.

There is a good picture illustrating this difference here. Scroll down the page to the picture of the day for the 4th October.

Trev 5th October 2006 22:15

I had to do a double take. I thought the two Canadians were at he head of a train of hopper wagons!

There is certainly a difference.

nldunne 6th October 2006 01:55

John

Those GP 38's pushing those U K loco's are some of our smaller - and older - machines. The SD 70 above that is one of our newer machines - and they are very large.

Canada is around 5,000 or so miles wide as is the U S and not as high but still very large. That is why we have such large trains in height and length (and horsepower) in loco's, cars and number of cars per train at times.

Vancouver Island is roughly the size of the main U K - England. Scotland and Wales. I do think the U K is slightly larger - but not by a great deal.

That is why your vehicles are smaller than ours here - you do not have the room for these massive machines.

Norm

swisstrains 6th October 2006 09:14

Thanks for that Norm. Although not as pronounced as in your part of the World most of the trains in Mainland Europe are also built to a larger loading gauge than British ones.

GWR9600 6th October 2006 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
I had to do a double take. I thought the two Canadians were at he head of a train of hopper wagons!

There is certainly a difference.

Me too those 66s arent that small!!!!

swisstrains 14th April 2007 10:04

Here's another picture illustrating the difference in size between British and North American locos. It shows a trainload of "Freightliner" 66's being taken to the docks for export to the U.K.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=182329

locojoe 14th April 2007 11:06

Hi John I wonder just how big british engines would if the broad guage and GWR loading guage had been our standard guage.
Alan Locojoe

Gandalf 14th April 2007 19:15

Looks like one has escaped from the far end
 
Hi John,
Looked at the pioc of the locos being towed but at the back one seems to be reluctant to be taken to the boat. For all their greater size the running boards look the same height so does that mean that couplings etc are very similar in height and style.
I still live in the days of hooks and chains.
John (G)

swisstrains 14th April 2007 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 7169)
Hi John,
Looked at the pioc of the locos being towed but at the back one seems to be reluctant to be taken to the boat.

Yes it does :D I suppose there must be some operational reason for having a flat wagon cut into the locos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 7169)
For all their greater size the running boards look the same height so does that mean that couplings etc are very similar in height and style.
I still live in the days of hooks and chains.
John (G)

I can't remember what it is called but the class 66's are technically similar to an existing American loco (possibly EMD SD 70/75??) and it looks like they might use the same underframe. I imagine that the couplings will be the same as the ones you remember John, although some of the EWS Class 66's do have a combination coupling that includes a North American style buckeye. In the photo they are probably using an adaptor unless of course the newer Freightliner locos are also fitted with the combination coupling.

pavorossi 17th April 2007 15:36

This might seem like a daft question but why cn't a handful of the 66s haul the train? It seems daft to use another engine.

Adam


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