New Diesels (or Not) 70012
 

Hi Everyone, i suppose you have all heard the news about new freight loco 70012. Whilst being unloaded off the ship was dropped by the crane from some considerable height and as far as i have heard the insurance company have written the whole loco off as scrap, oh-er. (perhaps it should have been numbered 70013 - unlucky for some). Bit of a shame though. Does anyone have any further information about its future?

Mods, can this be put in the thread covering the class 70's please.

Regards, 62440.

There's lots of talk about this
Some were saying it was going back to the States etc but it is on a low loader somewhere in the Midlands
it's like 70009 the gossip was it had a seized wheelset but the photo in the gallery clearly shows it live haulingthe other dead three on 0m25

The chassis of 70012 has been bent look at the picture http://martinturner.fotopic.net/p68663398.html
It would be very hard to repair that damage! Must have left quite a dent where it landed!

Maybe they are keeping it for spares?

:eek:dohh!. what have i done.

well thats one bachmann wont be making next year

As an insurance write off and with the cost of storage, I bet, based on the current scrap prices it'll be cut up post-haste and sold to China.:D

I would have thought they could take it back to the factory strip it down and rebuild the parts on the nexr chassis
I was reading it is constructed on a unit basis so they could reconnect the bogies engine and control equipment on the next chassis

Possibly. But it came down with a hell of a thump, and all its parts will have been affected by the shock. Every single component would have to be completely stripped down and rebuilt to be sure it was OK to re-use. Probably cheaper – and safer – to scrap them and start again.

as the loco is going to be scraped then all the loco parts are then scrap even if any are usefull they are now seen as scrap and may not be used in a new loco as they are allso seen as second hand they can not be used on a new loco. as you would not bay a new car with second hand bits in it. and if scraped it be comes the insurers loco ie the 1st owner. the only way round this is to not scrap it and then it could be use as spears which would be expensive to say the lest.

written off cars do get rebuilt..it is called reshelling
you put the engine and any usable bits in a new body

many years I purchased a rebuild ( at a good price ) it was MOT d and checked over by the police .. it was a good buy lasted me several yeads and cost 1/2 price

I dont see why with all the expertess they have it could not be rebuilt onto a new chassis

I bet it's more than just chassis damage.

If the insurance pays up why bother ?

Now that is NOT a good look....

On YouTube there is film of the wagons carrying the locomotives being shunted at Mountford. Loose shunted by a front loader, definitely not allowed in the UK. Moving valuable cargo in such a slapdash and cheapskate manner, noting the bogies were secured in cradles, maybe the problems had their genesis at the port where they were loaded.

As unfortunate as it is for FLHH the main thing is no one was killed or injured.
Chris

Yeah, but will the crane driver (or probably his company) pay the insurance excess and loose their no claims bonuses for the next few years like we would if we wrote our brand new vehicles off without even driving them??

Cheers, Tim

When you think how much cargo is lost at sea every year to weather and of course pirates, this is small beer for insurance companies. To strip, test and re-certify any potentially useable parts would be prohibitively expensive in labour costs alone.
It's like when my customers send me old equipment back for rebuilding and upgrading, I end up quoting less for a new unit due to the labour costs of stripping the old units down.
So my guess is, loco goes to meet the Rotweiler behind the scrappie's fence. :D

PS
They could always send it up to Barrow Hill as a conversation or conservation piece. ;)

Thats some damage there!!! bet someone lost there job over that!!:D

According to an article in Railway Herald today (page 4) 70012 is going back across the pond, just waiting for a suitable ship.

Regards, 62440.

Let's hope they find a suitable crane to go along with the suitable ship.:D

Yep Whitmoor !! lol
And some thicker string for the Crane :)

Hi all,
My sources say as soon as it's of the ship back over the pond its going to have a date with the scrapmans long cutting lance, an as far as i can make out if it was dropped on the dock not in the ship it would have to stay here for scrapping but due to the incedent happening in the ship it never actually landed an was there for not excepted by Freightliner, so the loco still in those terms belongs to the Manufacturer so i belive unless someone can correct me....!!!!!