have a look at this
 

watch this video, i found it on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekpD06P7kiI&feature=fvsr

OMG:eek: OMG:eek:

Have a look at this
 

there will always be people who don't think. bring back full gates.

"Mmmm" - - -"You Tube" and Clarkson - - -- "Mmm".
A good message, obviously about level crossings, and once the red light shows you should stop....end of story.

Not all elderly people on the road are bad drivers though.
Not only am I a retired railwayman, but I have had my driving licence 50 years this year, perfectly clean and never had or been involved in an accident.
I am an Advanced driver, a member of the Institute of Advanced Motorised, I am a member of the Guild of Experienced motorists AND I hold a Class "D" on my licence and have driven buses as a part time job after retiring from the railway.


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When "Train hits car" train will always win.

Absolutely mate,I cannot understand the need for anyone to chance the crossing at any railway crossing, I really cant.

I have always been in favour of manned level crossings, I know even they can have problems, but at least it would cut the chances of anything nasty happening by at least 90%.

The state of driving on our roads today, where it can be aggressive, fast and everyone wants to "get there yesterday", there are drivers who are not going to wait if they can dodge around the barriers are they ?

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one thing i think BR could do is when the red light starts a stinger pops up which is on a motor to put it up and down then just a second before the barriers go up the stinger goes down

what do you think about that

I have seen this before, yet if Jeremy Clarkson feels a High-Vis Jacket will save you, then he needs to research a Bit more.

In these cases, it is Always the driver of the train that I have sympathy for.

Those bus bollards are good at stopping traffic that shouldnt be going through but there are rather a lot of crossings to considering using them. It doesnt matter what you use, if you give some people any chance then they will take it. The stopping time at some gates is woefully long!

That might hurt a pedestrian standing by. Even better would be a grand piano suspended above each crossing.... you know what happens next. At least it'll be funny that way.

I hope I'm never in a position to see something like that.

PS: It has happened with steam.

http://www.gov.im/lib/images/tourism...traincrash.jpg

I agree with the idea of bus bollards, but puzzled as to why a Pedestrian would be standing on one in the road, more so If a warning-sign was erected, in order to state they will rise at the same time as the barriers descend and ALL across the road where AHB's are installed?

Would it not be significantly easier to install full barriers? Just a thought.

full barriers would be better option..........

dont put the stinger on pedestrains just cars

i like your idea about a piano above and then smash hehehe

simple message, better late than dead

manned level crossing
 

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Peter
A manned level crossing like this one near where I live. Note crossing keepers hut, not many of this type of crossing left now. :)

When I stopped for a while at the "Joan croft road" crossing near Doncaster (on the ECML) the crossing keeper told me there had never (to his knowledge) been an accident at that location, although it is hardly a very busy road.

Now that is a proper crossing, that is what they should all be like never mind money and cost.What is the cost of a human life ??

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Terrifying stuff. There should certainly be full barriers at level crossings.

correct me if im wrong but there i one at elsenham

Elsenham
 

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Originally Posted by locojoe (Post 52257) Here's a couple of photos of Elsenham station and level crossing. I don't know if the level crossing is manned with crossing keeper and hut. :)

The grey wooden building with the felt roof could be the crossing keepers hut.

yes thats the one and it is still manned untill this day and even as we speak

reason: the local people have put a preservation order on it so network rail cant change it to an auto crossing

it's definitely not fair for the train driver. not only because of the shock. in the film they use a class 31 (correct me if i'm wrong) which has a very high cab and large buffers. but with modern EMUs which have much lower cabs and lack buffers the driver can get quite badly injured if the train hits a big car!

Okay I know that was large-ish tanker and not a family saloon but the proof of the above, as if it were really needed, was there for all to see at Sudbury earlier this month. You just can't take any risks on level crossings of any sort.

I believe the driver of the DMU had exited the cab (into the passenger compartment) by the actual impact point.

Yes, I read somewhere that, having applied the emergency brake, he was in the doorway from the cab to the passenger compartment shouting a warning to the passengers at the time of the collision, and that this accounted for some of his injuries. I don't know the technicalities of driving a train, other than the odd play of Trainz, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this. However, I understand that once the emergency braking system has been applied there is nothing else the driver can do. I seem to recall similar information being given regarding a HST that suffered serious cab damage in a collision with a tree a month or so ago, there the driver applied the emergency brake and ducked for cover in the nick of time. I'm sure there's someone with more knowledge of train driving here who would know about this.

Won't argue with that :D
I wasn't in the cab when I hit a tree either, wasn't worried about broken bones
more about glass in the eyes

I've banged on a bit on Trainguy.co.uk about level crossings. it amazes me how anyone could rush across when they know a train is coming. Or in the case of Little Cornard, creep across without permission from the signalman. If nobody took chances at level crossings they would be totally safe.

its not network rails fault nor the train driver, it is the driver of the car

I totally agree, I was not blaming Network Rail or the train driver. In the case of Little Cornard, the tanker driver drove across a private level crossing without permission from the signalman.

the a***hole didnt phone the line controller

B*****d

plus another thing

"clarkson is the biggest cock i seen do a train vs car crash test"

Language Timothy !:(

Jeez just put gates on crossings and there will be no Clarks on youtube and no unfortunate pensioners..

It seems to me it would be fairly cheap to fit a micro switch and lock in the gates to show the signaler if the gates were open or closed , no use on a 100+ line like Ufton but for the chuggers on Sudbury max speed 45 I think the signal box could send an emergency signal to the driver if the gates were not locked,, there could be a refuge at the side for anyone needing to abondon a vehicle in emergency,,with a panic button.
I dont think that would be too expencive in railway cost terms

I have, for a long time, advocated that once you get your FREE oap bus pass you driving license should be taken away. Even on long distance bus'es you get very reduced rates for fares.

NO WAY !!

Don't forget the bus pass comes in at 60 and a bit (3 months at the mo).

Although I now have my bus pass, I could not survive without my car. Rural areas like where I live are not well served with public transport of any sort these days.:(

Well you have your motorcycle :D

I am a pensioner, I have had my licence for over 50 years and not even a "tea stain" on it PLUS on my licence I have a class D...check that out !
Apart from being a retired BR man, I have also done bus driving AFTER MY RETIREMENT (class D) for a time until my ill health , which did not affect my driving, became too bad. I still drive today, admitting only local in my car, usually the Tesco or Morrisons "shunt", I am ALSO an advanced driver AND a member of the Guild of Experienced Motorists.

Your comments as quoted are absolute rubbish and only fit to be deleted !!!

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Always the good old push bike