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steam for ever 29th January 2010 19:01

Commuter steam.
 
I couldn't find this on the forum so here you go:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/8022290.stm

It is about a commuter service on the ELR. I have to ask though will steam haul the services or at least heritage stock? There is nothing wrong with them and quality certainly is cared for here.:)
If not what stock will be used?

JEB-245584/2 29th January 2010 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 40200)
I couldn't find this on the forum so here you go:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/8022290.stm

It is about a commuter service on the ELR. I have to ask though will steam haul the services or at least heritage stock? There is nothing wrong with them and quality certainly is cared for here.:)
If not what stock will be used?


SFE look on the thread you started in December titled ELR thought, it is mentioned in that discussion.


Cheers John

steam for ever 29th January 2010 19:53

Ah right sorry. I have a memory of a gold fish.
I do wish however that the ELR would have info on the Castleton extension and this new commuter plan on its website.

pre65 29th January 2010 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 40212)
Ah right sorry. I have a memory of a gold fish.
I do wish however that the ELR would have info on the Castleton extension and this new commuter plan on its website.

Perhaps their is a reason why the info is not on the web site ?

By the way, scientists have recently proved that the Goldfish bad memory thing is a myth.:D

Gandalf 29th January 2010 23:41

The fish in our garden ponds know me,
I feed them but not over winter when the water temperature drops below 4 deg C but they follow me as I walk past and if I put a hand in the water they will come to see what I have however they do not do this for anyone else in the family so not only do they remember for extended periods of time they also can recognise different people. There is a slight railway connection to that as the garden railway passes beside the ponds and twice across the little stream.
John (G)

ccmmick 30th January 2010 00:01

I am with John and Philip on this one

Its got to be a myth
I my last house i had a big fish pond a lot of koi Carp/Goldfish and they knew when it was feed time they also knew when the Heron or the Cat was about they all used to swim under the weeds and plants so they cant have a short memory or be stupid.

ccmmick.

Pesmo 30th January 2010 00:39

They certainly have a DMU there as I had several rides in it last year.

Metrolink and the ELR have quite close links. It was announced this week that Metrolink would be using their yard for some heavy trackwork and borrowing three class 37's to use for the PW Wagons

steam for ever 30th January 2010 17:08

I would like to see that bury south and Buckley wells stations.
Bury would be a proper junction then and not a siding. I look forward to hearing more in the future. I don't know if the 10:20 from fort William to Mallaig counts but many seem to think it does. I do too.

PS: Anyone going to the Feb ELR gala?

Tony 30th January 2010 18:31

Hi SFE,
What has the 10.20 from Fort William to Mallaig got to do with the ELR? Or is this a new extended service?

Perhaps your short attention span could be attributed to chewing too many pens?

steam for ever 30th January 2010 18:48

Tony
The title of the thread is Commuter steam which could apply to anything. I was merley using the ELR and Jacobite as examples.
I don't mid a joke but I do not like insults thankyou.

I do hear there are many lines panning such services. For example it has been a long term objective of the West somerset to run these services. Are they still in exestence?

pre65 30th January 2010 18:59

And how many people would you think "commute" on the 10.20 from Fort William to Mallaig ?

Answers on a postcard to ----------:D

Don't be so snappy SFE, I'm sure it made no sense to most of us.:rolleyes::D

steam for ever 30th January 2010 18:59

I should add that the KWVR is also considering similar plans. Technically it has done it already as local residents take the train when running to the shops etc.
Last month I saw a poster on the ELR advertising the use of the line for shopping in its current state but I doubted that could work because of the erratic timetable. Hopewfully the new plans could make it work.

steam for ever 30th January 2010 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by pre65 (Post 40309)
And how many people would you think "commute" on the 10.20 from Fort William to Mallaig ?

Answers on a postcard to ----------:D

Don't be so snappy SFE, I'm sure it made no sense to most of us.:rolleyes::D

Sorry about that.
On the west highland there are always similar amounts of people on the DMUs.

JEB-245584/2 30th January 2010 19:22

Hi SFE,
Don't forget the "plans" you refer to regarding the ELR commuter scheme are only at the idea stage yet,true studies have been carried out,but overall it is part of a ten/fifteen year transport plan for the councils involved.
Nothing as yet as been decided on wether it could be light or heavy rail or even more importantly where the funding for these plans will come from.
Indeed there is nothing to stop the councils from dropping the idea and lookig at other alternatives.

Cheers John

steam for ever 30th January 2010 19:31

One thing is for sure is that the line will not kick out the heritage aspect.
I have heard suggestions of Parry people movers being used.
There are many different types and are cheap too.

pavorossi 3rd February 2010 10:36

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Originally Posted by Pesmo (Post 40250)
They certainly have a DMU there as I had several rides in it last year.

Metrolink and the ELR have quite close links. It was announced this week that Metrolink would be using their yard for some heavy trackwork and borrowing three class 37's to use for the PW Wagons

We do indeed have a DMU Pesmo, infact we have two DMUs and a DEMU, all of which will be out for our Multiple Unit Event on Saturday. And your Metrolink info is also spot on, we had a trainful of materials come in on Saturday, and I believe that the 37s will be working underneath the wires this weekend.

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Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 40289)
I would like to see that bury south and Buckley wells stations.
Bury would be a proper junction then and not a siding.

You've lost me a little bit with this SFE. To my knowledge there's never been any station called Bury South, would I be right in suggesting that you're advocating a station near Bury South signalbox? And I'm also quite confused about your comments describing Bury as a siding.

steam for ever 6th February 2010 16:52

Sorry Pav.
By siding I refer to the line which links Bolton street with the Metrolink connection via Buckley Wells. It is not used by passengers and it is rare to see anything moving down there apart for un sociable times of day.

Someone said that a bury south station was planned a while back.
Bury south I think would have been by the metrolink junction.

Lots of potential for the ELR.

Tony 6th February 2010 18:59

Hi SFE,
Your dreams of commuter services on the ELR are just that; dreams. In the real world the whole length of the ELR is closely followed by the M66 and because of this it will never attract commuters on a regular basis.
The ELR does a wonderful job of attracting daytrippers and tourists. If greater emphasis was put on the access to the wonderful hills around Rossendale and the many walks available, they may be able to open up another market for the railway.
Up on the moors above Rawtenstall/ Ramsbottom there are the remains of extensive narrow gauge railways which served the numerous quarries that operated there; yet another market opportunity. I used to spend a great deal of time tracing these tracks when I lived in Edenfield (3 miles South of Rawtenstall).

pavorossi 8th February 2010 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 40836)
By siding I refer to the line which links Bolton street with the Metrolink connection via Buckley Wells. It is not used by passengers and it is rare to see anything moving down there apart for un sociable times of day.

To be honest, that section is used very regularily. As the vast majority of our engines and units are kept at Baron Street, it is used whenever we're operating a service. Also, because the C&W works are down there, it's often used during the week when we're shunting.


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