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pre65 20th January 2010 11:47

Blue Pullman DMU
 
I have just found a web site that gives a lot of info on the Blue Pullman DMUs that ran on the Midland and Western regions.

I found it quite interesting.

http://www.railcar.co.uk/hisOthers/BPintro.htm There are 8 sections of info on the LH side.

Does anyone here remember them ?

ccmmick 20th January 2010 12:08

Very interesting indeed

I only ever seen this train once at Paddington a lovely looking train its just a shame that none were ever saved.

ccmmick.

garrat 20th January 2010 17:55

This was through Bedford on many occasions looked real good

swisstrains 20th January 2010 21:00

I went with my cousin to Manchester Central one night to see the Blue Pullman arrive from St.Pancras. One of the train attendants saw us trying to peer through the windows and gave us a conducted tour of the train. Very impressive, especially when compared to the ordinary trains of that period.

garrat 20th January 2010 21:21

Such a shame it was scrapped John

Dave Rowland 20th January 2010 21:34

BR managed to deface it in the later years, being white with blue at window level, with full yellow fronts. I saw all the WR units, either at Reading, or in the 'Pullman' sheds at Old Oak Common. Lovely looking units, it must be said. You would have thought that at least a driving trailer would have been preserved.
Does anyone have any other 'should have been preserved' moans about an modern traction? I think we're all aware of what STEAM is lacking in preservation (my particular gripe: a GWR 47xx 2-8-0), but what about diesels, electrics, and units?
This might be interesting.... :)

garrat 20th January 2010 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland (Post 39431)
BR managed to deface it in the later years, being white with blue at window level, with full yellow fronts. I saw all the WR units, either at Reading, or in the 'Pullman' sheds at Old Oak Common. Lovely looking units, it must be said. You would have thought that at least a driving trailer would have been preserved.
Does anyone have any other 'should have been preserved' moans about an modern traction? I think we're all aware of what STEAM is lacking in preservation (my particular gripe: a GWR 47xx 2-8-0), but what about diesels, electrics, and units?
This might be interesting.... :)

I wolud have liked 10000 or 10001 cant understand why they didnt they were both regular visiters around bedford mostly double headed

Dave Rowland 20th January 2010 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by garrat (Post 39435)
I wolud have liked 10000 or 10001 cant understand why they didnt they were both regular visiters around bedford mostly double headed

Good one Garrat! One of those two would certainly been on MY list, along with SR 20001/2 or 20003, plus a D600 Warship. Look:
http://daverowland.fotopic.net/p44362878.html
:)

garrat 20th January 2010 21:53

Yes D600 warship used to get then through here on rare occasions. 10000/1 looked real good with those large Chrome numbers if they were chrome that is .they were allways very clean locos when I saw them.

John H-T 21st January 2010 15:34

Thanks for the link Philip.

The Blue Pullman was taken up the Wirksworth Branch on a test/photo run. There is a photo in the Wirksworth Branch Book (2nd. ed.)

Used to see the Birmingham Pullman (8 car set) in Birmingham Snow Hill quite often. Looked great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland (Post 39431)
BR managed to deface it in the later years, being white with blue at window level, with full yellow fronts. I saw all the WR units, either at Reading, or in the 'Pullman' sheds at Old Oak Common. Lovely looking units, it must be said. You would have thought that at least a driving trailer would have been preserved.
Does anyone have any other 'should have been preserved' moans about an modern traction? I think we're all aware of what STEAM is lacking in preservation (my particular gripe: a GWR 47xx 2-8-0), but what about diesels, electrics, and units?
This might be interesting.... :)

Dave you might get your wish with the 47XX. It is an open secret that Didcot are hoping to use some of the "Barry Bits" to build one once the Saint is finished.

Best wishes,

John H-T.

Dave Rowland 21st January 2010 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by John H-T (Post 39511)
Dave you might get your wish with the 47XX. It is an open secret that Didcot are hoping to use some of the "Barry Bits" to build one once the Saint is finished. John H-T.

I'd heard something VERY vague. Now that WOULD be good; let's just hope it happens before I shuffle off this mortal coil! :D

garrat 22nd January 2010 11:30

Yes dave this is in the pipeline

redudley 24th January 2010 20:37

Blue Pullman DMU
 
In 1964 I was lucky to be given a cab ride in one of these from Birmingham and back. I was working at Snow Hill at the time and some of the shunting staff often had rides to Didcot and back with a parcel train, they had arranged it for me. When I got in the cab I was told to keep out of site but once underway a chair was produced from somewhere and I was sat between the two drivers all the way to London.On the return trip I was surprised when a waiter came into the cab with food for all of us.
This is one event in my life I will always remember.

Dave Rowland 24th January 2010 21:40

I seem to remember that the drivers of the Blue Pullman were required to wear white coats & caps, which earned them the nickname of 'ice-cream men'. :)

redudley 25th January 2010 16:47

Blue pullman DMU
 
Quite right, but i think there was a blue band to the caps

merryhampton 20th February 2010 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccmmick (Post 39377)
Very interesting indeed

I only ever seen this train once at Paddington a lovely looking train its just a shame that none were ever saved.

ccmmick.

I believe they relied heavily on blue asbestos for insulation and as such were, potentially, extremely dangerous. I did hear somewhere that BR would not let them go for preservation for this reason, but insisted that they were correctly and safely disposed of.

Anon Mouse 20th February 2010 16:49

I know it was involved in a crash at Thirsk, but suerly DP2 was not 100% a write off, maybe it should have at least been saved and cosmetically restored, also Kesterl should have been saved and at least one of the Cuban 47's.................


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