Can anyone identify these stations please?
 

These 3 photos were taken in the very early 1970s and show stations presumably closed in the Beeching era. I guess they're in the north Derbyshire area as I lived in Chesterfield at the time and I don't think they were far away. At the time I'd have made a note (or remembered) which stations they were but I can't remember now.

I'm pretty certain that the third photo is "Alfreton and South Normanton"
The second photo could possibly be "Codnor Park and Ironville"

first one is ilkeston victoria ,i was at the bottom of bath street,

rutland area

Can you see any of them among these:

http://myrailwaystation.com/FORMER%2...IONS/index.htm

Alternatively Wikimedia Commons has photos from the sixties to compare with.

I find disused stations/lines just so fascinating, great stuff

Thanks for the photos Ian. Looks as if you are well on the way to getting some ID.

Best wishes,

John H-T.

If they are still standing has anyone got recent photos to compare the 70's to now. That would be interesting. Thanks for posting Ian
Regards
Phil

Codnor park and Ironville site on http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...04823&t=h&z=18 Link.


Alfreton & South Normanton on http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...,0.002411&z=19

Sorry, I'm unsure of the position of Ilkeston Victoria.

Hope this helps.

Regards, 62440.

Would you tell us more about Ilkeston Victoria railway station.

I can't find any reference to it anywhere

Great to see this thread reopened thanks. The third picture is definitely Alfreton & South Normanton, as I was able to find some old pictures of it following Swisstrains' suggestion. I don't believe the second one is Codnor Park & Ironville after all as I visited the site last year and couldn't get any viewpoint which looked just like the old photo. I'm going to do a bit more research on nearby station sites when I'm next up there but in the meantime the mystery remains.
I've never heard of "Ilkeston Victoria" either. Can you tell us anything more please keiras? From the location you mention, was the station on the old line from Derby Friargate? There was a station on that line called just "Ilkeston" then later, to distinguish it from others in the town, I understand it was called Ilkeston North.

Yes, I looked in Butt, which is my reference work for all stations up to about 1980. (It even includes Grantham Old Wharf) and couldnt find an Ilkeston Victoria.

I've just found this image on another internet site stating that it's "Ilkeston North" station. It's not a brilliant image but it's taken from almost exactly the same position as my photo. The site also has a photo from the same spot taken recently showing a patch of waste ground and a depressing modern building plonked across the old trackbed - i.e. a typical view of modern England!

Just looked in "Lost Railways of Derbyshire" and on page 105 is a picture of Ilkeston North Station in the early 1900's which looks to be exactly the same Building.

The same pic is on http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/fro...n=zoom&id=9156

Regards, 62440.

I had wondered if 'Victoria' was the terminal station at the end of the short branch from the Midland's Erewash Valley route at Ilkeston Junction & Cossall? I'd never heard of it referred to as Victoria, but I believe it eventually became a bus depot for what used to be the Midland General company, long since swallowed up by Trent/Barton. Whether it still is such I don't know.
Generally, though, you only found 'Victoria' stations in the major cities.

like Barnstaple ...

It's Ilkeston North
Country Stations had names like North or South or Central

You get Victoria's in places like Sheffield and Nottingham
Interestingly Derby only ever had one MAIN line station the present Midland as it used to be called
unlike Town (Chesterfield) which had it's Midland, Central and Market place and the infamous Horns bridge where all the tracks of the individual railways crossed the river and roads to Clay Cross and Hasland

....and Southend, Manchester and LONDON! :)

Yes, but like Derby, only the Midland at Chesterfield was really a main line. Central was on a loop (nowadays if the GC was still active they would have stuck a 'Parkway' where it crossed the A632 between Chesterfield and Bolsover) and even if the founders of the LD&EC had visions of a main line through Market Place it never materialised. Horns Bridge was quite something though.

By the way, why do you call Chesterfield 'Town'? I've often heard the football club referred to in that way although it doesn't have that handle to its name, but yours is the first reference I've seen to the place itself being called 'Town'.

As far as I can remember

Chesterfield has almost always been called "Town" that I can remember could be a reference to the Football club but locally we tend to go to town

now it tends to be called Chezvagas :)

Re the GCR yes it was a loop but it had a really nice mainline style station and it of course is now underneath the A61 not a parkway BUT the tunnel is still there preserved too

Ah yes, Chesterfield tunnel. The southern portal is still visible, even if surrounded by massive concrete walls beside the "new" road. I attach a (slightly faded) photo of it which I took around 1972. The actual tunel portal has a standard rounded top which I assume was always hidden by the road (now demolished at that point) shown in the photo. On a recent visit to Chesterfield I had trouble establishing exactly where the northern portal used to be. Armed with a reasonably accurate GPS and old large scale map, the position would perhaps seem to be almost over where the new road is now but I'm not sure. There is a big square concrete block beside the road, visible even on Google Earth, which evidently gives access to the tunnel but whether it's exactly over the portal or they cut just into the tunnel, I don't know.

Now you've got me I think your photo is the North portal and the big concrete square you mention is the old tunnel mouth blocked off

If you look on Google street view, junction of Hollis Lane and Dixons road I reckon it's behind the gates at the back of that red LandRover. As a guide the Twisted Spire is visable at the right sort of distance and angle.

Regards, 62440.

It is indeed the south portal - and here is a photo of the north portal I took in 1969. I think it's true to say that nothing you see in this photo still exists today.

OK
Apologies I just didn't recognise it now I've RE-READ the post I didn't realise that the bridge obscured the tunnel mouth as it was before I went to Chesterfield daily to school - William Rhodes Technical

Oh well gone are the days of sitting on the wall at the cattle dock at the end of Platform 1

I think the mystery may be solved
 

Last week I was in Derbyshire and I'm fairly sure I've identified picture 2 as the old Ilkeston Junction station (on the MML). Part of the building is still there, used as a Peugeot breakers yard. It's lost its roof, the main house seems to have disappeared and the building has had bits put on the front of it but I reckon that's the station in the photo.

The old Ilkeston Town Station was at the bottom of bath st now were the Tesco Super Market site is plus the car park was the goods sheds but before that Midland Bus Depot was on site there.
Ilkeston North (what was now closed) Ilkeston Police Station with a Doctors Surgery and a Chemist,the Only thing that remains is the road bridge that went over the tracks.
As the tracks led towards derby Friargate via West Hallam
The otherside of the bridge was Domestic Industrial Pressings and the track through the land going over were now are housing estates and eventually went over Bennerley Viaduct which still stands to this day. hope it helps? pics:http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/15955

The third one is as others have said Alfreton and South Normanton. The buildings were demolished and Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway was built on the same site. I believe that it's now just Alfreton since the reopening of Mansfield on the Robin Hood line. I used to spend many happy hours on the overbridge from which the photo was taken back in the 1960s! Happy days !
Alan

Ilkeston Town Railway station not Ilkeston Victoria

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...kestonTown.jpg

Ilkeston Town railway station was a railway station which served the town of Ilkeston in Derbyshire, England. it was opened in 1847 by the Midland Railway on a short branch from the Erewash Valley Line.

The original station was closed in May 1870 but remodelled in response to the arrival of the Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) Derbyshire Extension line through its station later known as Ilkeston North. Ilkeston Town Station re-opened on 1 July 1879.

It carried a shuttle service from Ilkeston Junction which was never particularly popular since the GNR provided a direct main line service.[2] Some services were also provided to Nottingham and Chesterfield [3] From 1882 the former were routed along the Bennerley Junction route to Basford, with six services a day, but the they ended at the beginning of the First World War.[4]

In the Grouping of all lines (into four main companies) in 1923 the station became part of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway .

The branch had closed to passengers by the late 1940s and goods operations had ceased by 1960. The tracks were lifted and the footbridge removed. The site is now occupied by a roundabout at the end of Ilkeston's Chalons Way by-pass and a large Tesco supermarket. The route of the track roughly followed the recently built road named 'Millership Way'.