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berwickspotter 6th April 2009 12:07

Blue Star?
 
:confused:
Can anyone help i've been looking at lots of diesel pictures over the past
few weeks and have noticed on lots of pictures of 37s little blue stars
just above the buffers :confused: does anyone no what they mean ?

John Hunt 6th April 2009 12:17

Blue Star is one of the forms of multiple working for locomotives.
More info here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_working

:)

ECML43 6th April 2009 12:20

i'm surprised you don't know. From what I've read in your other posts you seem like an experienced trainspotter. anyway, the blue stars are a class of multiple working on diesels. if a locomotive has a blue star, then it can easily do multiple working with another locomotive which has a blue star. I'm not exactly sure what specifications a locomotive needs in order to be a blue star multiple worker, but it's things like brake pipe connections and gangways. You could look it up. There are lots of other sybols too. On more modern locos they tend to have letter codes.

berwickspotter 6th April 2009 17:52

thanks for that guys. its just somthing that i have never really bothered
to look up. as for experienced spotter this will be my 21st year as a spotter
out of 31. so ECML43 i dont no what you would class me as any ideas ?

SOUTHEASTERN-465 6th April 2009 18:14

for berwick spotter
 
take no notice berwickspotter i know your a pro-spotter and so do all of we,but as for ECML43 i aint any problems with you but stop being what i call a 'think your an upper spotter'!so ECML43 stop being a 'think your an upper spotter'!!!

SOUTHEASTERN-465 6th April 2009 18:25

berwick-spotter please can you tell me does hither green freight depot have any class 59s there, because when i went in there before there was class 66s only with class 59s
nowhere to be seen!but i heard class 59s were there by some experinced train-enthusiast freinds are they really? i dont think so!

berwickspotter 6th April 2009 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUTHEASTERN-465 (Post 26174)
berwick-spotter please can you tell me does hither green freight depot have any class 59s there, because when i went in there before there was class 66s only with class 59s
nowhere to be seen!but i heard class 59s were there by some experinced train-enthusiast freinds are they really? i dont think so!

I really dont no the last i heard hither green was closed
unless they use it for storage ?. but as for the 59s are they not based at
toton and merehead

some great pictures you have taken of the westerns mate

SOUTHEASTERN-465 7th April 2009 12:34

thanks berwick,somthing ive always wanted to know about the 59s,thanks for the comment on my 'westerns',but hither green is still open to my knowledge,but i didnt like the the now 'deceist' 'ews' my favorites are 'GBRF' and 'DRS' thanks again for your compliments,
southeastern-465 www.nsers.org.uk

Flying Pig 7th April 2009 13:10

We've got at least a couple of DBS drivers on here who may be able to advise.

I've heard that EWS (as was) pulled out of Hither Green and regrouped at Hoo Jn.

Alledgedly Balfour Beatty has got the place now, which would explain the presence of the blue/white OTMs and dearth of locos.

Another one bites the dust ? :(

ECML43 7th April 2009 13:14

:( :( :( sorry guys Im only young you know:o

SOUTHEASTERN-465 7th April 2009 16:47

thanks berwick and 'flying pig'
 
thanks 'flying pig' ive also seen at hither green class 08 shunters in red livery?thats explained it for me, but i have seen a couple of 66s in 'EWS' livery there?

Flying Pig 7th April 2009 19:14

Yup, EWS still seem to operate in Grove Park sidings so it's to be expexted that you'll see them at Hither Green - but I think that they're 'guesting' there rather than residing. The other regular visitor is the banana coloured Serco test train, consisting of top & tail 37s.

berwickspotter 7th April 2009 19:29

so can we say hither green is closed as a depot ?

Flying Pig 7th April 2009 19:39

Well it depends on how you define a depot, but I'd say no it isn't closed as although it doesn't appear to be a home for locos, Balfour Beatty seems to be fuelling, stabling, & maintaining OTMs and the like there.

berwickspotter 7th April 2009 20:54

well i class a depot as a place that homes locos
like toton etc. but going by platform 5 it says hither green is closed

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:29

when at the depot today for the first time i actually saw a class 59 in 'HANSON' livery, and it was on light engine and went down to grove park stn and back ,i didnt get the number though!ill try and get it though!this info is strange but true,
southeastern-465 (NSERS member)

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:30

59s
 
did that suprise anyone?seing a class 59,it certainly surprised me and in 'HANSON' livery

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:34

one more thing on a charing x bound train,when passing the buildings it 'CLEARLY' states that 'balfour beattys' there and on the other building it says 'EWS hither green'?

berwickspotter 8th April 2009 14:35

59101. 59102. 59103. 59104. perhaps

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:45

i think it was 59101,but ive heard hither green closed too,but i live down the road from it and it dosnt seem closed,confusing,do you think,and the buildings i passed with 'ews hither green' written on it?confusing world a,
southeastern-465

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:46

the funny thing is that this forum says 'blue stars' but were talkin about somthing totally diffrent!

berwickspotter 8th April 2009 14:52

well the EWS sign will be history now. because EWS is now DB SCHENKER

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 14:55

i never been a fan of EWS when they were around what about you,and im not warming to DB SCHENKER either,what about you?

berwickspotter 8th April 2009 15:02

well i've come to like ews because 95% of the locos that come past here
are ews but i'm not to sure about DB schenker it looks a bit to pinky
for me.
as for my all time favorite its the old br blue with large logo or load haul

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 15:06

my favorite companys
 
i totally agree about the 'BR BLUE' and 'LOAD HAUL' but my favorites are 'DIRECT RAIL SERVICES' and 'GBRF' but 'DB SCHENKER' are just as bad as it gets!

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 15:09

my favorite companys are 'GBRF' and 'DIRECT RAIL SERVICES' what about u berwick?

berwickspotter 8th April 2009 15:19

yes the DRS are smart. but as i said all the freight that comes past berwick
are all EWS and are 66s we some times get a 60 coming past but thats
about 5am in the morning with steel. as for express we are national express.
we dont even have a depot any more that closed a very long time ago
in the days of steam it was called tweedmouth or 52D and i live next to it
all that is there now is a siding to allow the freight to pull off the main line
an let the express past

SOUTHEASTERN-465 8th April 2009 15:29

i like class 66s,but your a lucky man seing class 60s before withdrawl,im not a fan of national express (rail comanys),or
SWT,EMT,any bus operating company running rail services does not work out in my books!bus companys stick to bus companys rail companys stick to rail comapnys,thats my saying anyway,ill look tweedmouth on wikipedia because it sounds interesting,
southeastern-465 (NSERS member)


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