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garrat 22nd September 2008 20:32

55006
 
can anyone tell me when it was taken out of service and where it was cut up.

Deathbyteacup 22nd September 2008 20:47

55 006 / D9600 - "The Fife and Forfar Yeomanry" - was withdrawn and cut up at York in Febuary 1981 to the best of my knowledge, I dunno the exact dates though.

garrat 22nd September 2008 20:54

Thanks a lot I have a connecting rod from it that I purchased in cricklewood long time back and have just found it again in the loft.

stembok 23rd September 2008 09:29

D9006
 
D9006 withdrawn at York 8th February,1981. Towed to Doncaster 9/2/81. Cut up July,1981 at Doncaster after stripping of serviceable parts. See Napier Chronicles for details.

paul miller 23rd September 2008 12:57

When was the open day at Docaster Works when all the servicable ones were running and the others were placed in the yard?
I know I should remember, because I went (along with the rest of the world I think)
but for the life of me cannot remember when It was.
I remember lines of Deltic engines on palletts. one day I will find my photos.
Paul.

garrat 26th September 2008 11:30

Thanks a lot folks for your info I purchased the con rod from br collectors corner who had a stall at cricklewood what do you reckon its worth anyone

stembok 28th September 2008 11:59

garrat: Not sure what your Deltic con rod would be worth. There were I think 57 Napier Deltic power units originally and of course one of the big features of Deltic operation was the repair by replacement policy of power units so that any one engine might have served time in many members of the class. Doncaster Works became very proficient over the years at craning engines out and replacing with a repaired/reconditioned unit. With only 22 members of the class this policy helped reduce time out of traffic. The same with bogie changes which could be done in a couple of hours.

pavorossi 28th September 2008 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by stembok (Post 19489)
Doncaster Works became very proficient over the years at craning engines out and replacing with a repaired/reconditioned unit. With only 22 members of the class this policy helped reduce time out of traffic.

I was talking to a regular East Lancs passenger about this just the other day. He informed that they could have an engine swapped, tested, and the loco back in traffic in 6 hours!

garrat 30th September 2008 10:08

Really appreciate all your comments folks what a great site this is.I have 8mm film of some deltics through the sandy area I am to get them transfered onto dvd soon as I can raise the money pensioner steam and diesel head I am

Trev 30th September 2008 22:22

I'll look forward to watching them garrat.

meurglysIII 16th November 2008 22:22

me too, I'd love to see them. Idiot that I am, I stopped spotting in the early 80s, just as the Deltics started Newcastle-Liverpool haulage and passed within a mile of my house. :mad:

garrat 19th November 2008 11:38

Ive made inquiries regarding transfering super 8 to dvd and as a struggliing oap cant afford to do it tho I met someone at the loughboro steam gala who gave me an idea how i can do it myself .He incidently had diven from bury st edmunds in a 1971 metro that he passed his test in and has kept it ever since it was immaculate bless him .

Tony 19th November 2008 19:09

For anyone too young to have heard a Deltic in full cry, you missed an unmistakable howl that could be heard for miles. In 1961 when the Deltics were first introduced I lived in Tollerton, ten miles North of York. It was the middle of a 20 odd mile flat, straight stretch, known as the "Racetrack". I could hear a Deltic coming South through Thirsk, about 20 miles away, enough time to leave home and get down to the station in time to see it tear through! They looked magnificent on the front of a train of Pullman coaches; "Tyne Tees Pullman"," Heart of Midlothian" etc. I believe that they are speed limited now which is a great shame but it is understandable now that they no longer have Doncaster "Plant" as backup.

Tony 19th November 2008 19:15

Hi MeurglysIII, I always thought that Newcastle - Liverpool trains were in charge of "Peaks" not "Deltics". I see you live in Golborne? I lived there for 12 years - I taught in Wigan, it is much warmer here in Devon!

meurglysIII 19th November 2008 21:45

Hi Tony, small world ain't it?! Which school did you teach at? Deanery? Do you remember the colliery & goods yard at Golborne, maybe even the station? (which there is a slight chance of being re-instated if the Manchester congestion charge goes through)

Whereabouts in Golborne did you live? we are near the high school. And what time period?

Sorry for all the questions, you just surprised me!

All the best
Pete

(Deltics did appear on transpennine trains in the early 80s by the way, although maybe Liverpool-York services, there's a great article in Traction magazine about a Liverpool spotter of the time & his memories of Deltic haulage from Lime Street to Rainhill or St Helens Junction!!) Also there's a pic on here by Swisstrains, taken at Parkside:


http://www.railwayforum.net/gallery/...=500&ppuser=40

swisstrains 19th November 2008 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony (Post 21058)
..............I always thought that Newcastle - Liverpool trains were in charge of "Peaks" not "Deltics".................

I've just put two more Deltic related photos in the gallery.

Tony 19th November 2008 22:30

Hi John and MeurglysIII; Great pics, so Deltics did work the Liverpool trains!
I lived in Golborne until 2002, Halewood avenue; moved to Blackpool, then devon. Taught at St Peters' , Fred Longworth and Pemberton High. Did most of my spotting at Lowton.

meurglysIII 23rd November 2008 13:52

Hi Tony

Yes, I know Halewood Avenue. I presume if you spotted at Lowton you mean the transpennine route through Croft & Kenyon, can't think of any other lines that would have still existed then, apart from the WCML of course. These days I only go out to see charter trains, the current traction doesn't appeal too much - although I do like the class 57s & 60s.

I miss the days when we got classes 24, 25, 40, 47, 56, 81-7.... and on the transpennine route 45s & 46s..... :mad:

paul miller 24th November 2008 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony (Post 21057)
For anyone too young to have heard a Deltic in full cry, you missed an unmistakable howl that could be heard for miles. In 1961 when the Deltics were first introduced I lived in Tollerton, ten miles North of York. It was the middle of a 20 odd mile flat, straight stretch, known as the "Racetrack". I could hear a Deltic coming South through Thirsk, about 20 miles away, enough time to leave home and get down to the station in time to see it tear through! They looked magnificent on the front of a train of Pullman coaches; "Tyne Tees Pullman"," Heart of Midlothian" etc. I believe that they are speed limited now which is a great shame but it is understandable now that they no longer have Doncaster "Plant" as backup.

That noise was the reason I got back into trainspotting.
I had given it up at the end of steam, and in 1974 was persuaded to go to Grantham for the day with a friend.
I could not believe that "noise". I stood at the north end of the station, where I had stood to watch A4's leave in 1957, and was enthralled by this beast 55001 "St Paddy" pulling away from the platform end. I dont mind admitting I was smitten, and a little annoyed because I had "cut my nose off to spite my face" by refusing to accept the changes that had to come to our railway system.
I was at Retford on the day of the last run by a Deltic and never thought I would see one on the main line again.
Lo and behold, fast forward a few years and I am train manager and organiser of a steam special from Crewe to Carlisle and back over the WCML and S&C. What was pulling a railtour over the same route but a preserved Deltic. What a sight.
It passed us at Preston, and the hairs stood up on the back of my neck.
This from a 100% lover of steam.
They where, and are, a special loco. If anything had the right to replace Gresleys finest, it was these locos.
Paul.

DSY011 24th November 2008 20:32

For a bit of unmistakable howl and an animated view of Deltic pistons go to
http://www.wis.co.uk/justin/deltic-engine.html
and click on the view of the pistons.

John H-T 24th November 2008 20:47

Thanks for the link Syd. That is the sound I remember when I saw Deltics roar through Riccal and Barlby on the East Coast Mainline.

Best wishes,

John H-T.

Tony 25th November 2008 17:32

To DSY011;
Thanks for the Deltic sound clip. To me it sounded more like a Gardiner bus engine - or a bag of spanners! A high speed Deltic howl it definitely isn't!


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