Models of 'One Off's'
 

What with Heljan releasing a model of D1200 'Falcon', and Bachman threatening to release a model of the prototype Deltic later this year, I was wondering whether anyone had any thoughts on other 'one off's' that they would like to see from the manufacturers.

The Hush-Hush is an obvious one, but the 4-6-4 wheel arrangement might prove to be a problem, given that very little else (in the UK and Ireland at least) used this wheel set up.

So, any 'one off' that you'd like to see?

As an aside, and probably o/t, is it right to use the 'of' word with a double f? I've been thinking about this whilst writing this post. For example, there was only 'one of' Class 53 (Falcon), but it's always described as a 'one off'. English eh?, weirdest language around.

Anyway, my vote for a 'one off/of' would be HS4000 Kestrel. To my lifelong disappointment, I missed seeing it by a matter of weeks. :(

How about the Gresley Garrett 2-8-0 0-8-2 ?

How about any Garratt, which I know we will never get, so what about A LMS Fowler compound 4-4-0 Number 1112

I must admit that I don't know much about that particular locomotive Syd, but if it's a pre-grouping design, then I think it could be a goer, at least in time. I've been reading a lot of stuff in the model railway press about the major manufacturers thinking about pre-grouping loco's. And why not? The market is almost saturated and if they want to keep on making money, then pre-grouping is the way to go. Maybe the Lickey Banker as a one off? It'd certainly sell, both as an operating model and also as a collectors piece.

I do agree with you about the Garratt though. The development costs for any manufacturer wold far outweigh any returns. Sadly, 'cos even I, as a out and out diesel fan, would probably buy one.

LMS Garrett has been done in kit form, I have seen one running

I'm probably wrong but I've always been under the impression that the term "one off" refers to the manufacturing process. e.g. Only "one" xxxx came "off" the production line.:)

I still think a Garratt will appear. Yes it will be expensive, but I think enough people will buy it to make it viable.
I would like to see a compound as well. Dirty and with the early B.R crest as I remember them.
My first choice would be a Robinson 2-8-0. That would be special.
We all have our preferences with locations though dont we?
Mr Bachmann and Mr Hornby, even Mr Heljan cannot keep us all happy.
Paul.

I know that Hornby have measured the Robinson 2-8-0 at Loughbrough.

I think Bachmann's link with the NRM could produce some interesting locos. The guy on the NRM stand at Warley, where the Deltic was on display, seemed to think that City of Truro would be next.

Hopefull the MR/LMS Compound could be a mainstream model as there are so many variations. Perhaps now that Hornby are back to producing 4-4-0's with the T9 and the Schools we might see a few more.

Hopefully Hornby will remember that there were two other companies in the Big Four soon! The SR and LMS have done very well recently.

Bachmann seem to be having a fairly quiet year this year. Perhaps they are going to try to release models in the year they anounce them in future!

One day I might get round to assembling and motorising my Kitmaster LMS Garratt. Sadly it is probably worth more as a kit ... about £70!

Best wishes,

John H-T.

I think the Robinson 2-8-0 has been done in kit form try Ks or Wills

It is amazing what has been done in kit form. The Hush hush for example, so Trev fancy a bit of kit bashing?

Best wishes,

John H-T.

As most model railways have totally out of true scale gradients - I think The Lickey could look good. So I would like an 0-10-0 "Big Bertha", with "proper" scale gearing to give the effect of 15 mph maximum at maximum controller setting.

No doubt somenone here will tell me that the Lickey has already been moddled may times.

Not sure precisely what is or has been available but what about gas turbines 18000 and GT3 or even 'Duke of Gloucester' -has anyone made a ready-to-run Caprotti-geared loco of any description? And DP2 had a reutation for being an ultra-reliable loco until it met a sticky end - it ran on both the east and west coast main lines so could fit into many layouts.

I have just found that Hornby made a LMS 4-4-0 Compound in 1981. Anybody got or had one?

MODELNO.LIVERYCATEGORYClass 4P 4-4-0 Compound Locomotive Released: 1981 1982 1983 - SS: 2
1000L.M.S. CrimsonSteam LocomotivesClass 4P 4-4-0 Compound Locomotive Released: 1983 1984 1985 - SS: 2
1000M.R. CrimsonSteam LocomotivesClass 4P 4-4-0 Compound Locomotive Released: 1986 1987 - SS: 0
41043B.R. BlackSteam Locomotives

Way beyond my skills John! I'd end up with hunks of white metal, brass and would probably have burnt the house down with the soldering iron! :D

Was it the original design of the Hush Hush......

http://www.lner.info/locos/W/w1.jpg

or the rebuilt one?

http://www.lner.info/locos/W/w1rebuilt.jpg


I was going to say I'd like to see a model of the LNER's number 13....

http://www.lner.info/locos/Electric/ee1_2.jpg

....that ran on the Newport to Shildon Electric Railway, but I found one (at http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalo...dithedge.shtml ) with a quick search on Google. :)

I'm considering buying one. There's a lovely model of the loco already in the NRM.

That's true but I think it will be Mr and Mrs Wong who ultimately decide if we can have affordable ready to run models of "one off" locos.:D

Yes I think you may be right about that.
It would not surprise me if someone out there starts making ready to run locos and stock without even involving Bachmann and Hornby. Dafter things have happened.
Paul.

The original Hush-Hush Dynamo.

Best wishes,

John H-T.

Couple of good choices there Adey. How about the Fell diesel mechanical as well? I'd certainly buy one of those!

Yeah I figured it would be, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

The first pictures of the Hush Hush that I saw were the A4 type version and it wasn't until a few years later that I saw a pic of the original one. To my mind, both designs are a bloody good looking locomotive.

When you think about it Gresley was way ahead of his time design wise as well as from an engineering point of view was'nt he. The A4's still look modern today, and the A3's dont betray their age by the design of them.
I still think that his "perfect" engine was the V2. It is so in proportion, it is perfect.
Paul.

I've only ever seen a few photos of the Fell loco. It was certainly an...erm.. interesting design:)

I saw GT3 'in the flesh' several times when it ran on the old Great Central line and I even 'cabbed' it at Leicester Central shed. It looked as if it had been designed to appeal to steam loco enthusiasts, quite different to 18000 (or18100)

Hello everyone, I know I'm probably suggesting to a steam era crowd but why not a badger? if Hornby can produce a 390 (with just 52 and a half examples that all look the same!) and the eurostar (who actually buys them?) then why not an 89!