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saxokid 7th October 2010 01:14

BR Dmu"s,blue and grey...
 
Are there any Dmu"s still in service on the rail network??

62440 7th October 2010 01:48

I can't find any blue & grey ones listed in the current platform 5 book.

Regards, 62440.

John_142 7th October 2010 15:44

I think all Regional Railways liveried units have all been re painted now the only ones which where where the 150270 etc units with Northern now in Northern Livery and have a Basic Refurb / Full Refrwsh with modifications there was a 153 at EMT but still its been re painted but whats floating arround in Scotland or Ireland I think the closest you will get is the 158 look alikes in IRAN correct me if I ve got the country worng please..

saxokid 11th October 2010 02:35

What happened to all the 101 Dmu"s.....??

62440 11th October 2010 13:42

About 50 odd cars got preserved at various railways around the country, 3 or 4 here, a couple there sorta thing, the rest went to places like Vic Berry's at Leicester and had a date with the mad gasaxe man.

Regards, 62440.

saxokid 13th October 2010 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by 62440 (Post 54725)
About 50 odd cars got preserved at various railways around the country, 3 or 4 here, a couple there sorta thing, the rest went to places like Vic Berry's at Leicester and had a date with the mad gasaxe man.

Regards, 62440.

Shameto here only few were saved!! rest got melted down..........:mad:

hairyhandedfool 13th October 2010 09:02

There have been some route learning and sandite units about the place (at Aylesbury mainly it seems) in recent years and both Chiltern Railways and Arriva Trains Wales have used a 121 on a near daily basis.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2653804492/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7681357@N02/1464503304

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpmarks/3857686092/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:96...t_NRM_York.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/notes/chilte...50249025615177

http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/u...21_Cardiff.jpg

http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/view.php?cat=Class%20960

This 121 has recently passed into preservation I think...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/salisburyasc/2451307154/

62440 13th October 2010 14:28

I think I'm right in saying that those two class 121's are the only first generation DMU's left on the network.

Regards, 62440.

steam for ever 13th October 2010 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxokid (Post 54707)
What happened to all the 101 Dmu"s.....??

I was lucky to witness the final 101s in use in cheshire, which was one of the last locations if not the last to use them. Still miss them. Old they were getting by railway standards, but by comparison to the 142 rubbish that replaced them they were wonderful. Some were painted in BR green, but Im not too sure about blue and grey.

Wish they were still here. :(

hairyhandedfool 14th October 2010 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 62440 (Post 54798)
I think I'm right in saying that those two class 121's are the only first generation DMU's left on the network.

Regards, 62440.

They are the only ones in passenger use, but I can't say for route learning and Network Rail use.

steam for ever 14th October 2010 12:26

Actually i think there is a departmental 101 in NR yellow out there.

ianrail 14th October 2010 19:11

10 years ago now (summer 2000) we went on a 101 dmu out of Glasgow Central to a suburban destination and very soon after that they were withdrawn. If I remember right, they were painted in that rather unimaginative all-over darkish blue colour. Personally I don't have very positive memories of them - noisy, poor performance and stank of diesel fumes - but they're very much part of our railway heritage now.

hairyhandedfool 16th October 2010 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 54830)
Actually i think there is a departmental 101 in NR yellow out there.

There was, it was Lab 19 - Iris 2.

http://www.traintesting.com/iris1&2.htm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianrail (Post 54844)
10 years ago now (summer 2000) we went on a 101 dmu out of Glasgow Central to a suburban destination and very soon after that they were withdrawn. If I remember right, they were painted in that rather unimaginative all-over darkish blue colour. Personally I don't have very positive memories of them - noisy, poor performance and stank of diesel fumes - but they're very much part of our railway heritage now.

Most were Regional Railways livery wih Scotrail Branding, bu atleast one was orange and black (strathclyde PTE livery) and one was in an all over 'caledonian' blue livery.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~rob.coll...piccadilly.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastarial/2767172901/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:101692_at_Arley.JPG

saxokid 20th October 2010 03:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by hairyhandedfool (Post 54877)
There was, it was Lab 19 - Iris 2.

http://www.traintesting.com/iris1&2.htm



Most were Regional Railways livery wih Scotrail Branding, bu atleast one was orange and black (strathclyde PTE livery) and one was in an all over 'caledonian' blue livery.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~rob.coll...piccadilly.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastarial/2767172901/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:101692_at_Arley.JPG

Cheers for your information and pics:D

Dave Rowland 20th October 2010 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 54802)
I was lucky to witness the final 101s in use in cheshire, which was one of the last locations if not the last to use them. Still miss them. Old they were getting by railway standards, but by comparison to the 142 rubbish that replaced them they were wonderful. Some were painted in BR green, but Im not too sure about blue and grey.

Wish they were still here. :(

The class 101 units which operated from Chester TMD were certainly blue/grey, and some cars, reallocated from Scotland, carried the orange/black Strathclyde livery, some full units, some as hybrids:-
http://daverowland.fotopic.net/p44654411.html
:)

saxokid 22nd October 2010 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland (Post 54990)
The class 101 units which operated from Chester TMD were certainly blue/grey, and some cars, reallocated from Scotland, carried the orange/black Strathclyde livery, some full units, some as hybrids:-
http://daverowland.fotopic.net/p44654411.html
:)

Super pictures Dave!! miss all the old trains at chester!! they were the good days.......:)

Kasane 22nd October 2010 04:12

Now you have got me thinking - back in the times of BR blue, DMUs were blue and the main line Mk II coaches were blue and grey.

Anybody remember the discussion and dis-approval when BR started putting blue and grey on DMUs? The feeling was that blue and grey was appropriate for main line but not for the rocking and rolling of a DMU. If I remember it was the Trans-Pennines sets that first got the blue and grey.

I will look up my Railway Worlds to find out if I can find some of the discussion.

Dave Rowland 22nd October 2010 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxokid (Post 55048)
Super pictures Dave!! miss all the old trains at chester!! they were the good days.......:)

Thanks mate! As I recall, when the first generation Chester DMUs were being replaced by 150/0, 150/1 & 156 class units, most of the old units were put into store at Chester TMD; invariably the new units had considerable running-in problems, and a good many trains were cancelled. As the old units had just been left in the open, they weren't operable, and bus replacement services were often the order of the day. Although I live on the south coast, i regularly visited friends in Wrexham, usually travelling via Crewe & Chester; the problems that arose caused me untold headaches - after ringing up my mate (6 miles out of Wrexham, no bus service), I'd tell him what time the train was due to arrive at Wrexham, he'd dash off to the station to pick me up, and I'd arrive an hour later than planned - on a bus. And no mobile phones then....
I do remember writing down train numbers at Chester in the late 80s, and asked a youngish chap if he'd got the numbers of an old DMU that had just left. "No, I don't bother with them" he replied. "Why not?" says I. "Well, they're not going to be around for long, so it's not worth it" he says. Hmmmm. By the same reasoning, was it worth noting the numbers of class 20, 25, 26, 27, 31, 33, 37, 40, 45, 46, 47, 50, 52, 55, 56, 60, 73, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 90, .... if you see what I mean? :confused::)

saxokid 24th October 2010 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland (Post 55055)
Thanks mate! As I recall, when the first generation Chester DMUs were being replaced by 150/0, 150/1 & 156 class units, most of the old units were put into store at Chester TMD; invariably the new units had considerable running-in problems, and a good many trains were cancelled. As the old units had just been left in the open, they weren't operable, and bus replacement services were often the order of the day. Although I live on the south coast, i regularly visited friends in Wrexham, usually travelling via Crewe & Chester; the problems that arose caused me untold headaches - after ringing up my mate (6 miles out of Wrexham, no bus service), I'd tell him what time the train was due to arrive at Wrexham, he'd dash off to the station to pick me up, and I'd arrive an hour later than planned - on a bus. And no mobile phones then....
I do remember writing down train numbers at Chester in the late 80s, and asked a youngish chap if he'd got the numbers of an old DMU that had just left. "No, I don't bother with them" he replied. "Why not?" says I. "Well, they're not going to be around for long, so it's not worth it" he says. Hmmmm. By the same reasoning, was it worth noting the numbers of class 20, 25, 26, 27, 31, 33, 37, 40, 45, 46, 47, 50, 52, 55, 56, 60, 73, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 90, .... if you see what I mean? :confused::)

yer very true........

saxokid 24th October 2010 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasane (Post 55054)
Now you have got me thinking - back in the times of BR blue, DMUs were blue and the main line Mk II coaches were blue and grey.

Anybody remember the discussion and dis-approval when BR started putting blue and grey on DMUs? The feeling was that blue and grey was appropriate for main line but not for the rocking and rolling of a DMU. If I remember it was the Trans-Pennines sets that first got the blue and grey.

I will look up my Railway Worlds to find out if I can find some of the discussion.

miss the old blue and grey dmu days!! only time i go back to those days is when i go upto Llangollen for the Dmu weekends.........:D

86217Comet 14th January 2012 20:46

I have very fond memories of the 101s. As a young kid in the early 70s my dad would take me from Edinburgh Waverley over to Fife via the Forth Bridge and the units were always 101s. This was in the good old days when you could see out the front and watch the driver. The units did have a very distinctive smell which was a curious mixture if metal, upholstery and diesel fumes. The units of today just seem to totally lack any character of their own.:cool:

62440 14th January 2012 23:54

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This'll take you back a while Comet

Regards, 62440.

ACE 16th January 2012 21:04

101 memories? Down here in Cornwall after the 'Skippers' (142's) farce we got a 'motley' collection of 101/108's until the second generation units eventually arrived, the windows vibrated like anything on the 101's....:D

Madcaravanner 17th January 2012 11:12

Around here we seemed to get 114's with 110/123/124's
But we did get the renumbered 104/108's

Some of it to do with the fact that test runs from Derby Works went
Derby-Clay Cross- Barrow Hill - Chesterfield - Clay Cross - Derby

So we were lucky which is why I have some nice 35mm slides of the old Class 252/3 as single cars

in fact I am trying to identify one a driving car numbered 56097 it LOOKS like a Derby Lightweight but the number is way out


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