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StoneRoad 27th December 2009 22:30

HST power car
 
252 001 - one of the prototype power cars is in the NRM (at York? I think in the Great Hall), and it has buffers {which I remember from seeing it under test at Chippenham in 1972/3}

Rassy 31st December 2009 16:09

The reason why 8 power cars were fitted with buffers in 1987, was so they could be used as DVT's for the class 91's.

When the class 91's were first built the DVT's and MK4 coaches were not ready in time to be tested, so they fitted 8 HST's with buffers and used them instead.

railwaybuddy 9th January 2010 19:24

i see you like scrap locos rassy

Anon Mouse 11th January 2010 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 36311)
To the original topic- all of the HST's have been re engined so none of the original examples exist.

what about the NRM's 41 001 ;)

Dave Rowland 11th January 2010 06:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anon Mouse (Post 38432)
what about the NRM's 41 001 ;)

That's not a standard HST set, it's a prototype, hardly what most people would associate with class 43 - it wasn't a passenger train was it, just part of a test unit?

Deathbyteacup 11th January 2010 07:10

Not to mention the prototype isn't the full set anyway?

Anon Mouse 11th January 2010 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rowland (Post 38437)
That's not a standard HST set, it's a prototype, hardly what most people would associate with class 43 - it wasn't a passenger train was it, just part of a test unit?

well its got its original Paxman Valenta, but I get the point :)

I am sure the prototype was used in service for passenger evaluation purposes?

8001 30th January 2010 19:03

Elecric trains have a far better performance than a diesel in the 1960,s the deltics only produced about 2600hp at the rail(depending on speed) wheras the AL6(86) 25kV loco was producing about 4000hp, the gap in performance still exists. Electric Traction does have some disadvantages and few people allow for electrical transmission losses in their calculations, however the powers source can be what Coal, Neuclear, Wind, Tidal Whatever you want.

steam for ever 30th January 2010 19:35

One problem;
whenever it snows electric trains stop working.

Anon Mouse 31st January 2010 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by steam for ever (Post 40319)
One problem;
whenever it snows electric trains stop working.

So most of the network in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, China, North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Germany, Slovakia, Czech, Hungary etc etc just shuts down coz electric trains dont work in snow? ;)


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