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HM181 17th September 2010 19:33

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Originally Posted by Jim Christie (Post 53781)
To be fair I wouldn't trust Bob Crow as far as I could throw him (which isn't very far).
He's always struck me as an opportunistic, militant, stereotypical barrack room lawyer/whinger who perhaps isn't as clever as he needs to be for a man in his position.

In my opinion the RMT has never been the same since the passing of Jimmy Knapp.

I recon Bob is all of what you say, and it pleases me that he is. I would rather have him watching my back than a load politicians who were out to get me.

railwaybuddy 17th September 2010 20:09

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Originally Posted by Jim Christie (Post 53781)

In my opinion the RMT has never been the same since the passing of Jimmy Knapp.

who is/was Jimmy Knapp???

pre65 17th September 2010 20:11

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Originally Posted by railwaybuddy (Post 53815)
who is/was Jimmy Knapp???

It does not take much effort to find out.:rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Knapp

railwaybuddy 17th September 2010 20:14

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Originally Posted by pre65 (Post 53816)
It does not take much effort to find out.:rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Knapp

ahhhhhhh so thats who he is
i have heard if it before, i cant remember now:confused:

HM181 19th September 2010 00:46

Jimmy Knapp told a Guards and Shunters conference at Torquay, that no DOO train would run on BR.
That was just after the miners strike in 1985.
I know as I was there.

enigma45 19th September 2010 12:26

If it wasn't for the like of Bob Crow and his line of predecesors of all rail unions railwaymen would still be working 18 hour days with no sick pay, rest days, comp leave or holidays. So don't get brainwashed by idiots who say he is a waste of space.

Bubblewrap 19th September 2010 18:08

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Originally Posted by enigma45 (Post 53868)
If it wasn't for the like of Bob Crow and his line of predecesors of all rail unions railwaymen would still be working 18 hour days with no sick pay, rest days, comp leave or holidays. So don't get brainwashed by idiots who say he is a waste of space.

I'll second that.

HM181 20th September 2010 12:58

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Originally Posted by Bubblewrap (Post 53873)
I'll second that.

Its the ill informed trainspotters again.
BOB does his job on the tube while bully boy managers rip up national agreements, and impose rosters that dont work.
You can always tell when there is a boss about, because they call a yard a shed, thier HV clothing is spotless and when they pick up a shunt pole, they put the curly bit under thier arms and ask me what its use is, and can I make it redundant?
Bob is OK with me, and we would be surfs if it was not for the Trade Unions.

enigma45 20th September 2010 19:29

Managers today think they know it all from books and college when they wouldn't know their knob from a steam pump. In my opinion the only and best teacher of ANY craft is experience on t'job.

Same goes for some of these lineside lawyers who seem to assume that all things railway are best learned from Ian Allen and railway press. It's alright sitting there taking train numbers and spotting this that and the other but that is not true knowledge. Oh these folk are dedicated alright but a hobby is not a vocation.

Bubblewrap 20th September 2010 21:15

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Originally Posted by HM181 (Post 53910)
Its the ill informed trainspotters again.
BOB does his job on the tube while bully boy managers rip up national agreements, and impose rosters that dont work.
You can always tell when there is a boss about, because they call a yard a shed, thier HV clothing is spotless and when they pick up a shunt pole, they put the curly bit under thier arms and ask me what its use is, and can I make it redundant?
Bob is OK with me, and we would be surfs if it was not for the Trade Unions.

I was saying that Bob Crow Is an OK bloke And I was seconding some one of that opinion
I am NOT a BLOODY trainspotter that I stopped doing in 1968 when steam friished.
I have been a Trade union member since I was 16, I am now 61.
I was also a member of the Labour party for 30 years till I got p****d of with TB in 2003.


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