Not another B..... Diesel preservation scheme.....:mad:

Someone shoot me, please!:rolleyes: 62440.

Seems they now want to re-create a class 13 super shunter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_13

You can count me out of that !:confused::D

They would only be any use if preservation railways with steep inclines got their DMU's stuck trying to climb in damp weather with leaves on the line, etc. Otherwise what would be the point?

Precisely !:D

The problem with DMU's is that most, if not all do not have sanders.

An 03 propelling a 108 trailer car has never failed to get up the incline at Wirksworth (The steepest standard gauge passenger carrying line in the UK, overal 1 in 30. steepest 1 in 26).

We did have to set back for another go at the incline last Sunday on the first Santa Train with our two car 101 Met Cam, but as I said, no sanders! Made it second time! If it really got to be a problem we always have the Class 20!

Best wishes,

John H-T.

So, John, are you saying that you can't find a use for a 120 ton twin unit class 13 lookalike because if you guys can't use it then no-one else can!:eek:

Regards, 62440.:D

sorry dont have any spear time at weekends bud,i take part in rally driving...........:)

I am suggesting that! Opperationally we would not have a use for a Class 13, the Class 20 is more than adequate!

However if someone wants to use a couple of 08s to recreate a Class 13 to fill a gap in preservation that is another matter, bit like the Saint, Grange and County projects: recycling parts to create missing classes!

Best wishes for Christmas and 2010.

John H-T.