The East Lancs has one in working order, or it did at some time. I've never actually seen it but I've seen DVD footage of it on the back of a train over Burrs behind the Crab.

Adam

well i have downloaded a pic of the queen mary somewhere on this site. not quite sure where though?

Kodiak Bear's picture is in the rolling stock part of the gallery. Follow the link below.

http://www.railwayforum.net/gallery/...o=2308&cat=504

Adam

good one adam.
now, give me a clue, how do you put that link up in here ?
lol

Open up the picture, highlight the adress in the adress bar of your internet browser, press ctrl and c, then when your creating your post press ctrl and v.

Adam

oh right. well, the next pic i will try that then.
cheers

Queen Mary Brake Vans
 

The QM brake vans were used on all sorts of traffic on the Southern and were last used on the Southern (my memory) on the Channel Tunnel project being used as propelling control vehicles on the fully fitted services conveying mine waste from Snowdon Collery to Shakespeare Cliffe (vehicle was painted in Trainload Construction livery). Several survived into latter service including the preserved example on the Spa Valley Railway which arrived in EWS livery from Toton.
Some examples were infact converted from Metropolitan Carriage Wagon & Finance Co motor luggage vans built in 1923-4 for the Central division AC overhead services, being converted in the 1930's as the AC system was converted to the usual DC third rail supply.

i rememebr these well...a SR speciality and huge.....the SR often reused underframes.....even BR reused NOL underframes to build 2-HAP''s and /or 2 EPB's in the 50's

I'm not sure why they needed such vehicles given the lack of serious gradients and relatively low freight density but I wonder if it has to do with extra brake power being desired with the close signal spacings aroung London on the Southern