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Pesmo 2nd April 2009 18:47

Dumb question time. Is the driver aware that the train has split (and hence able to report it) and whats to stop the following train hitting whats been left behind as surely the signals team can't detect that it has split if the driver doesn't notice ?

There see I said it was dumb ;)

Flying Pig 2nd April 2009 19:00

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Originally Posted by Pesmo (Post 26026)
Dumb question time. Is the driver aware that the train has split (and hence able to report it) and whats to stop the following train hitting whats been left behind as surely the signals team can't detect that it has split if the driver doesn't notice ?

There see I said it was dumb ;)

OK, there are 2 separate issues here. All modern trains are sprawling with safety systems, so something as major as the train coming apart will invoke an Emergency Brake Application *. If you read previous answers in this thread you'll find out about the Brake Continuity Wire on modern EMUs. Also Brake Piped trains like freight trains and HSTs will stop because the brake pipe pressure drops. Both halves of the train will come to a stand pretty smartish, and the Rulebook requires a driver to determine the cause ofany unsolicited brake application. So once he starts walking back down the train he'll notice that it has divided.

* It is possible to override this system to get a train moving again, but I won't go into details about this on a public forum, it might be useful to terrorists. :rolleyes:

With regard to signalling, because both parts of the train stop close to each other, there's a good chance that they'll be in the same signalling section. Additionally if it's track circuit block signalling then they'd show up wherever they are. Plus of course the driver is required to inform the signaller immediately when the train divides.

HTH

Pesmo 2nd April 2009 20:42

Ah, I see. So the leading unit with the driver will stop as well automatically. I had it in my mind that it would go barrelling onwards in blissful ignorance of having left something behind.:eek:

Thanks for that, very informative


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