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Old 5th January 2008, 20:12
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Talking If Your on time you will miss your train

If Your on time you will miss your train

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/...1466-20103930/


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Old 5th January 2008, 20:39
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what are they going to do? shut the doors on the queue boarding....? check passengers through the gate and not let them on train? Unrealistic and poor service.
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Old 5th January 2008, 23:18
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Yet another stupid idea by some university graduate who does not live in the real world or has any understanding of how railways work.
what next a 30min check in for security purposes?(get your ID cards ready )
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This kind of thing was always going to happen once the network was broken up into different companies. Remember the days when a connecting train would be held once it was realised that the main line service was late?
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It makes sense if you ask me. Put it this way, would you turn up for your 14:30 flight to Paris, at 14:30? No, you allow plenty of time. Granted, there is check-in etc, but you get the idea.

By and large, people know what time their train is, and should get there early anyway, in case of unforseen delays.
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If Your on time you will miss your train

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/...1466-20103930/

Sir,
Where are you getting this rubbish statement from?

Yes the passanger timetable and the working timetable can and do differ by one or two mintues but differance is:

If the pass timetable says that the train departs at say 1512hrs then then our timetable the working time table may say 1514hrs, so therefore if you turn up on time for your train then NO you will not miss it.

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Sir I had no idea I had been included in the new years Honours list.

The rubbish statment came from here and manners cost nothing. good day


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I think this sort of thing depends on the context. I could understand this with a local train services, stopping at every station, it would need to constantly keep on time in order to satisfy everyone and avoid delays. If this was an intercity service (e.g. like Virgin Pendolino going non stop between London Euston and Crewe) it woulnd't be fair on passengers if this left early.
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I don't know what all the fuss is about. Arriva Trains Wales aren't really doing anything new. In this country train doors have always been shut (and in recent years, locked) before the train departs and it usually takes approximately 30 seconds. Surely, nobody in their right mind would deliberately arrive at a station less than 30 seconds before the published departure time? As for "staff making use of whistles to signal imminent departure to all concerned", Arriva certainly don't have a monopoly on that. It happens at larger stations all over the network every day.
I think it's another case of the media looking for problems that don't actually exist just so they can have another "dig" at the railways.
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Old 6th January 2008, 18:56
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it woulnd't be fair on passengers if this left early.
Nobody is talking about leaving early, in fact it is contrary to the Drivers Rulebook to do so. What they actually said was...

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The nation’s main train operator is asking travellers to board their train at least a minute before it leaves the platform. It has decided to lock train doors half a minute before departure time in a bid to improve punctuality.
Most Train Operators nowadays have a policy of closing the doors anything from 15 to 30 seconds prior to departure time, to enable the train to LEAVE exactly on time.

Obviously this only valid if the train is running to schedule. If there is a variation such that it comes in late, or not on the advertised platform, or the passengers are delayed from boarding by the actions of the TOC itself, then the train will have to wait for them.
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