End of the line for EWS?

[Shed Cat]

Originally Posted by Dynamo

I think you'll find that the first and second world wars were probably about the only times in our history that we've been at war with Germany. Since the second world war we've been brothers in arms with them, especially during the cold war.

and I think we were allies with the Prussians in the 19th Century before Germany existed. I'm just glad European wars seem to be a thing of the past, not forgetting some terrible things that have happened in eastern europe.

[LesG]

[QUOTE=Dynamo;16617]I wear the EWS T shirt all the time, but if I was made to wear a proper shirt and tie it wouldn't bother me to be honest, even if it was on a ballast train. At this moment in time, though a new uniform has been mentioned, I've heard no word as to whether or not we'll be made to weat a shirt and tie. EWS drivers do get issued with shirts and ties as well.

I also wear the EWS T-shirt when working freight, But when working the Scotrail sleeper or a passenger charter etc I will 99% of the time wear collar and tie as I feel that I am there representing my company and I try to look the part.

Les

[Shed Cat]

Originally Posted by Dynamo

I also wear the EWS T-shirt when working freight, But when working the Scotrail sleeper or a passenger charter etc I will 99% of the time wear collar and tie as I feel that I am there representing my company and I try to look the part.

As a humble passenger, I would appreciate seeing a shirt and tied driver as it makes me believe that if the driver has taken care over that, then they will probably take care over the the whole driving job. A scruffy muppet in an T-shirt* and bobble hat at the controls might be the world's best driver, but I would be concerned.

Funny thing, prejudice.


* I am not saying anything about EWS T-shirts, but just idley rambling on about my grumpy old codger prejudices.

[Deathbyteacup]

Originally Posted by Shed Cat

As a humble passenger, I would appreciate seeing a shirt and tied driver as it makes me believe that if the driver has taken care over that, then they will probably take care over the the whole driving job. A scruffy muppet in an T-shirt* and bobble hat at the controls might be the world's best driver, but I would be concerned.

Funny thing, prejudice.


* I am not saying anything about EWS T-shirts, but just idley rambling on about my grumpy old codger prejudices.

Does it matter though when it comes to freight? I don't usually expect to see the driver anyway.

[Foghut]

OK, thanks to LesG & Dynamo for their replies. Sorry I was being a bit cheeky there but I was curious about your attitudes. I agree that if you are running a prestige service you ought to dress the part. I work for one of the few suburban passenger companies which still allows its drivers to wear T shirts, and I'd hate to be stuck in a Mickey Mouse suit like the Southeastern now have. Maybe it's because our units are so old and filthy ? When our new franchise started we were given white shirts and ties which got stained very quickly thanks to all the mechanical systems covered in grease.

It's funny how different nations view things though. I've seen SNCF drivers wearing shorts, flip-flops and a T shirt, and the passengers don't bat an eyelid - they're only bothered about the cleanliness and punctuality of the service and aren't fussed what the guy up front is wearing so long as he's getting it right.

But then I don't imagine we Brits would want to model ourselves on the French !

[LesG]

Originally Posted by Shed Cat

As a humble passenger, I would appreciate seeing a shirt and tied driver as it makes me believe that if the driver has taken care over that, then they will probably take care over the the whole driving job. A scruffy muppet in an T-shirt* and bobble hat at the controls might be the world's best driver, but I would be concerned.

Funny thing, prejudice.


* I am not saying anything about EWS T-shirts, but just idley rambling on about my grumpy old codger prejudices.

At my depot we have one particular driver who turns up to his work in scruffy EWS uniform and on top of that wears filthy dungarees and a dirty yellow vest/jacket no matter what train he happens to be working.

He turned up to work the Royal train dressed like that and was surprised that that the inspector threw him off.

Les

[paul miller]

Saved Prince Philip calling him a "Scruffy B*****d I suppose.
Paul.

[swisstrains]

I personally don't see a problem with "smart casual" and neither do many of the railways across mainland Europe.
However in the U.K. there are so many "sloppy dressers" who couldn't be trusted to dress appropriately that I think the TOC's are right to provide a shirt and tie etc.

[DSY011]

At my depot we have one particular driver who turns up to his work in scruffy EWS uniform and on top of that wears filthy dungarees and a dirty yellow vest/jacket

I wonder how he would get on in Japan where all the on board train staff wear white gloves.

[Dynamo]

Well folks. Its actually going to happen. EWS will cease to be at midnight on the 31st of December 2008 and will in future be known as DB Schenker. At present there are no plans to dismantle the groups and they will continue operating as DB Schenker Energy, DB Schenker Construction, DB Schenker Industrial and DB Schenker Network.