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The majority of NR trains I have been on the toilest have been bunged up plus theey are definatly not clean nor are EMTs Trains nor are ATW and SWT claened very well they do have cleners but theesed ays they are more of a litter picker than anything carpets don't get cleaned toilets get a few squirtes of disinfectant spray and run over with a dirty mop its all to do wth money that it the problem not jsut with northern with every TOC arround but yet in my persoinal exprences Northern do seem to be the worst in all the TOCs ive ever travled with in asspects.
They slag FGW off all the time but wdespite a few tproblems with failing trians there trians do seem relativley claean andwas made well aware of what was going on on well don FG.
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