[farren]

i got the ivat 262 by bachmann wich is the same took me some time to git that one to stop blowing chips but i got there in the end, the older hornby and lima i find very simple to do (late 70's onwards) ones i had when i was a kid of 7 they where the days. I do like the railroad a good idear having some room to up grade and to make it a one off model. i think its all to do whith the moden gen ever thing got to be bigger and better which ends up with what hornby and bachmann are doing the loco are spot on in looks so they then have to add sound and lights i can see oil lamps and smoke next on steam locos but this all cost and it take the fun of super detailing out of the hobby.