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Old 7th January 2012, 14:38
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I agree, and the voyagers are even wose. I always try to travel Transpenine on the 185s they are much better for seating. Mr Branson did things on the cheap, so we are now left with a legacy for the next 30 years.

The problem is that these trains are not owned or designed by the TOC's they're all leased and designed by faceless ones somewhere abroad
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