I think we have established that all of us hate this wretched company and likewise their pathetic inadequate and dangerous little trains, if you can call them that at best.
Thing is though, the franchisetime runs out next year, so this would explain the lack of new trains in the manchester hub plans. A big question is who will replace Northern?
I personally think it will be First group that will take over runnning over many lines and possibly Arriva for some of the more southerly lines.
When the Northern nightmare (a good catchphrase?) ends in 2011 it is probable that 142s will be phased out completely as more 170s are ordered and many more 150s cascaded from elsewhere. This 150 release is set to happen all over the country so the 142 class of pacer could well dissapear from all but the furthest reaches of the map.
This would also explain the reluctance to refurbish tired stock.
In the slightly longer term (around 2015) all 150s could dissapear from the ex Northern network as they are transferred to south wales and the south west.
The 170/2s (or 3s by that time) will be the centre for most traffic by then.
Now you will want proof?
Well none as such that makes it definate but all the signs are in place.
1. Northern know they have lost and are stagnating and are sure (in public) that their stock is adequate and safe. first who are the most likely contender for much of the network are currently introducing new stock (transpennine are anyway, which is closest).
2. Ahead of time, the 142s are being seen in less and less numbers with the 150 cascade starting.
3. Development plans state faster services and better reliability, something which cannot be done unless new stock is obtained.
4. In a final attempt to save face and the company, many 156s have appeared, too late of course but a sign that they know that any other company would instantly bring better standards.
5. We know it is going to end badly for them, escpecially when you paint the statiosn in east German colours. yes they are, have a look!
This may well be wishful thinking, but with other regions of the UK raising the standards and ever more complaints and safety concerns come to light, it is not long before something
MUST be done in order to keep the railway going.... and the passengers alive.
I may have got one or two points wrong here, but come next year things should get better for those in the north.