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DSY011 29th October 2010 23:08

Passengers break out of stuck train in Cambridgeshire
 
Passengers have forced open the doors of a train after it broke down near a Cambridgeshire village station.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-11655182

John H-T 30th October 2010 10:04

As the passengers were not in any danger, could they be done for trespass and criminal damage? There was no need for them to leave the train!

Best wishes,

John H-T.

27vet 30th October 2010 15:25

Depends on how long they were stuck in the train?

klordger1900 30th October 2010 17:33

They should not have left the train unless instructed to do so by the driver or BTP. They are in violation of the terms on the ticket and broke railway by-laws. I hope they all end up in court and get fined - there are too many hot heads about when stuff like that happens and they insist on taking the law into their own hands. If they had got mown down by a train who would be responsible then - the driver of the train? Next week that would have been dark by that time and lineside is definitely a dangerous place to be.

Deathbyteacup 30th October 2010 20:38

It wouldn't have been the driver of the train's responsibility, it would have been their own, if someone was injured, as long as the TOC can establish they did everything reasonably practicable to stop people leaving the train then it's their own liability.

John H-T 30th October 2010 21:49

My understanding is that it is the guard who is responsible for the safety of passengers. It is their job to decide when to evacuate the train and conduct passengers to a place of safety. Obviously if the train caught fire it becomes a case of self preservation!

Best wishes,

John H-T.

pre65 30th October 2010 22:25

Those that did not "break out" were locked in the train for several hours.:eek:

(according to local TV news)

Jim Christie 31st October 2010 10:25

In which case you can understand why they wanted out, especially since the modern trains have no opening windows, ergo it gets rather stuffy inside very quickly. Plus the toilets are all 'Leckie', so no power=no working toilets.
Why do we, in the UK in this day and age think this is a suitable way to treat passengers?

klordger1900 31st October 2010 19:46

Maybe health & safety should consider public sensitivities when trains get stuck for long periods especially in tunnels or even inclement weather like snow drifts or floods. There should be some means for stranded passengers to get some relief for thirst, hunger and toilet requirements supplied as necessary under emergency legislation. There are plenty of helicopters available which can deliver to the wilds of our countryside and there is no reason that special carts like Wycombe trollies cant be adapted as portaloos for use in tunnels. Maybe the passengers charter should be amended with these sort of instances in mind as they seem to happen with alarming regularity.

Deathbyteacup 31st October 2010 21:45

Trains have toilets and water on them?


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