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TRP 7th April 2021 11:38

Trespassers
 
I don't really know what to say:eek: - 2 adults with a child & a pushchair walking along the KWVR:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-56647135

Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident - lockdown has seen an increase in trespassing on both the main line & heritage railways, seemingly because people believe that no trains (or at least less trains) will be running. As mentioned in the article, the KWVR has had previous incidents over the last year and I know that Network Rail, the Spa Valley, RH&DR & NYMR (& possibly others) have all reported trespassing incidents during the various lockdowns.

Tony

Beeyar Wunby 7th April 2021 12:17

IIUC, Trespass is a funny old law. I believe that if someone enters a property but has caused no damage, the worst that can happen happen to them is to be asked to leave.

Whoopy-Doos!

Under railway bylaws the CPS does have the power to fine trespassers, provided that a clear notice was displayed telling them not to (like they should need to be told :rolleyes:), but if they enter property at a non-approved place, eg a hole in a fence, then that rule won't work

What we need is a law such as "entering railway property without authority or the recognised training". Bang, woosh £1000 pound fine.

Or similarly "Causing economic/financial damage to a business". Since any railway looses money when the trains are made to stop, how about making the twonk who is responsible pay for it?

Yes I know, there's not a snowball's chance in hell - but that's how I'd roll on Planet Johnny!

Keep safe, John

TRP 7th April 2021 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beeyar Wunby (Post 95661)
Or similarly "Causing economic/financial damage to a business". Since any railway looses money when the trains are made to stop, how about making the twonk who is responsible pay for it?

Yes I know, there's not a snowball's chance in hell - but that's how I'd roll on Planet Johnny!

Keep safe, John

I like this idea John. It could then also be applied next time Extinction Rebellion bring central London to halt (causing more pollution due to idling engines of the stationary traffic) or glue themselves to an electric train (one of the most environmentally friendly forms of public transport)!

Tony

TRP 7th April 2021 15:00

And another example - trespassing, fly tipping & vandalism at the East Lancs Railway:
https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/04...reopening.html

Tony

D.O.G.F.A.N. 7th April 2021 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRP (Post 95660)
I don't really know what to say:eek: - 2 adults with a child & a pushchair walking along the KWVR:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-56647135

Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident - lockdown has seen an increase in trespassing on both the main line & heritage railways, seemingly because people believe that no trains (or at least less trains) will be running. As mentioned in the article, the KWVR has had previous incidents over the last year and I know that Network Rail, the Spa Valley, RH&DR & NYMR (& possibly others) have all reported trespassing incidents during the various lockdowns.

Tony

Why do they redact the faces of these people. Please don't say it's because of their human rights.
Stuart

Master Cutler 8th April 2021 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRP (Post 95664)
And another example - trespassing, fly tipping & vandalism at the East Lancs Railway:
https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/04...reopening.html

Tony

Fly tipping on railways is something that should be completely stamped out if only from a safety point of view.
In some urban areas it is like riding the train through a landfill site.
Some of the dumped crap could easily blow onto the track and cause hazards.
Until rules and laws are firmly enforced I think trespass and vandalism will continue to be a major problem for all railways.


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