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pre65 21st May 2014 06:42

French red faces over trains that are 'too wide'
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27497727

Tony 21st May 2014 14:18

Oops ! Back to the drawing board ! Gaston, where did we put that old guillotine ?

Madcaravanner 21st May 2014 17:30

I sat reading this around 7am in a Railway Gazette and then it was on the news

Just HOW? do Railway planners and executives get it so wrong that they have to change the INFRASTRUCTURE to accommodate the trains

WHY? did someone not point out the error before they were built

OH Forgot the French are the best at everything they NEVER make a mistake

OR

are the best at making mistakes too

boilersuit 21st May 2014 17:31

You'd think they'd thoroughly test the first one off the production line, and then modify the design before making any more.

Bobjork 21st May 2014 18:38

I wonder if these trains will be to narrow for the swedish railway. We have very wide trains here...

Anyway... I really wonder how this could happen... but it has happen before, not too wide but not able to take curves etc etc.
Oh, and the type A32 tram in Stockholm (built 1997) were so low that the safety plank above the third rail had to be replaced with a rubber protection so the trams could go from the depot (tram- and metro) to route 12...

Beeyar Wunby 23rd May 2014 16:00

It just shows what happens when you divide a railway up.

We had exactly the same debacle here in the UK when Railtrack replaced BR.

It's called asset management, which is a posh way of saying that you know about the resources you have .....and clearly they don't.

How hard would it have been to run a gauging train over the routes that the new stock was to use ?

Here on the Thameslink route they strapped polystyrene sheets to the side of a unit which was potential replacement stock and worked it through the London tunnels. I'm told the sheets were pretty battered and gouged at the end, and so the 319s stayed with us.

It's really not rocket science, but this sort of pragmatism seems to beyond the capability of most modern executives.

Ploughman 23rd May 2014 18:14

2007 or 2008 Bridge replacement near Pontefract racecourse.
The day before the new bridge was due to go in somebody finally compared the actual length of the new bridge with the proposed gap, before they broke the track.
Result - New bridge 200mm short.
Result - 1 year delay to re apply for the possession and cut in a spacer section.

Gandalf 23rd May 2014 21:14

too wide
 
Was there not a similar problem over here many years ago that restricted the GWR Kings to certain routes?
John.

derek hopkins 24th May 2014 03:00

good old french strike again

pre65 24th May 2014 06:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 80785)
Was there not a similar problem over here many years ago that restricted the GWR Kings to certain routes?
John.

I thought that was a weight problem ?


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